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« Thread started on: Sep 6th, 2013, 2:53pm »

Before I saw a show on the 2007 tour, I wrote down what I thought would be the setlist. I found this file, dated July 2007, and learned that I wasn't too far off. Here it is:

Genesis Possile Set List

1. Behind the Lines
2. Duchess
3. Land of Confusion
4. That's All
5. No Son of Mine
6. In the Cage/Cinema Show/Do the Neurotic/Raven
7. Afterglow
8. On the Shoreline
9. Throwing it all Away
10. Mama
11. Home by the Sea
12. Follow You Follow Me
13. Domino
14. Dance on a Volcano
15. Los Endos
16. I Can't Dance
17. Invisible Touch
18. Fading Lights
19. Turn it on Again

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1. I predicted they'd start with this, but I didn't know they'd drop the words and add Duke's End to it (which was awesome, I thought)

2. I thought if they played BTL, they wouldn't leave out Duchess, especially being one of Tony's favs

3. Figured LoC would be toward the beginning of the show

4. I thought they'd bring this back, it seemed to get a good response on the IT tour

5. A given, early in the set

6. I thought they'd bring back the Cage medley but do something new to the instrumental part - I thought they'd pull out something weird, like Neurotic, but I was pleasantly surprised with Duke's Travels

7. A given if they did the Cage medley

8. I thought they would pick just one song they'd never played live before - and this would've been a good choice since it came off the last box set w/ Phil. This was a long shot.

9. A given

10. I was hoping they'd bring this back since they like it and it didn't work on the WCD tour

11. Since I saw the video at the tour announcement that they were rehearsing this, it was in. I thought they would drop it for this tour, but it still sounded great.

12. FYFM - I thought they would try to play more hits this time around, and this is a great 'old' one IMHO - glad they did it, and with Phil on the kit, and with cool video animations

13. Domino - I wasn't sure if they'd play this, I thought they'd be tired of it and it would take a lot of time in the set. But, it is one of my absolute favs, so my hopes were fulfilled with this one. This one works best close to the end of the show since it has a pretty big finale.

14. With the Old Medley featuring DOAV on their last live album, I thought they'd bring back the Volcano/Endos medley like Seconds Out. Dang, I wanted to hear a full version of this.

15. A given, but wasn't sure how they'd do the drum duet. I loved it.

16. A given, close to the end

17. A given, close to the end

18. Another long shot, my predicted set list is too long, but I thought this would be a perfect song to end the show with its message of farewell. Well, it played on the P.A. as we exited the show ...

19. A given, because of the name of the tour - this always ended shows so I thought it would here, too. But with it in the opening of the show, it left a HUGE question mark for me as to which song would be the last. Needless to say, i was surprised most of all by the inclusion of Carpet Crawlers. Tears were in my eyes.

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 6th, 2013, 4:38pm »

Nice guess smiley I think that probably Ripples, Dukes travels, Dukes end where the biggest surprises in the set.
Most of the other stuff was played for years and are so to speak fan favourites in one way or another.

I believe that That's all was actually rehearsed for the tour (along with Jesus he knows me).
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 6th, 2013, 5:31pm »

Good guesses! smiley

I really think that they somehow managed to build a set that worked really well hitting the "must haves" and yet still managed to have a few surprises mixed in.

Considering the depth of the back catalog, their own personal favorites (and not so favorites) and a desire to make this a reunion/greatest hits/farewell tour all rolled into one it must have been a little tough getting it all to work.

I just listened to the Hollywood Bowl show again yesterday and it really struck me just how good they (still) were on that tour. Part of me hopes that there might be...something left to hold out for, but if that truly was the last time they played together they certainly ended Genesis EXTREMELY well.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 9th, 2013, 07:53am »

on Sep 6th, 2013, 4:38pm, santibanks wrote:
Nice guess smiley I think that probably Ripples, Dukes travels, Dukes end where the biggest surprises in the set.
Most of the other stuff was played for years and are so to speak fan favourites in one way or another.

I believe that That's all was actually rehearsed for the tour (along with Jesus he knows me).


Yes, those were definitely big surprises, and very welcome ones. Carpet Crawlers, in hindsight, doesn't seem like a big surprise, but I really didn't see it coming since they had always tended to NOT play such soft songs at big venues.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 9th, 2013, 08:19am »

I believe Many too Many was under consideration but Phil didn't want to sing it as he deosn't like the song. embarassed

Damn shame as it one of the best "singles" imho

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 9th, 2013, 08:24am »

on Sep 9th, 2013, 08:19am, John Wilkinson wrote:
I believe Many too Many was under consideration but Phil didn't want to sing it as he deosn't like the song. embarassed

Damn shame as it one of the best "singles" imho

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I've heard similar and agree with everything you say.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 9th, 2013, 10:09am »

I love it so much....

It's in our set wink

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« Reply #7 on: Mar 2nd, 2015, 3:17pm »

A real shame. I would had loved to see Many to Many done live. I also heard Abacab and the whole Cinema show was considered for the tour as well. But again phil didn,t want to sing Abacab cause he forgot what the song was about. never got a reason for not doing Cinema show.

on Sep 9th, 2013, 08:19am, John Wilkinson wrote:
I believe Many too Many was under consideration but Phil didn't want to sing it as he deosn't like the song. embarassed

Damn shame as it one of the best "singles" imho

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« Reply #8 on: Mar 3rd, 2015, 08:47am »

on Mar 2nd, 2015, 3:17pm, Irishdrummer07 wrote:
never got a reason for not doing Cinema show.


In the rehearsal footage you see Phil singing along to the CD and the high notes in the Na - Na - Na Na section seemed awful high for him at the time.

And Mike has said many times he no longer remembers how to tune the 12-string guitar for Cinema Show.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 3rd, 2015, 08:58am »

Ohh yeah now I remember that. Shame as I for one would had loved a complete Cinema Show.


on Mar 3rd, 2015, 08:47am, WinstonWolf wrote:
In the rehearsal footage you see Phil singing along to the CD and the high notes in the Na - Na - Na Na section seemed awful high for him at the time.

And Mike has said many times he no longer remembers how to tune the 12-string guitar for Cinema Show.
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 18th, 2015, 06:55am »

on Sep 9th, 2013, 08:19am, John Wilkinson wrote:
I believe Many too Many was under consideration but Phil didn't want to sing it as he deosn't like the song. embarassed

Damn shame as it one of the best "singles" imho.

That's odd. I thought that would be a song Phil would really like. I love it personally. Beautiful, emotional, melancholic, clever lyrics.
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 25th, 2015, 10:43am »

on Mar 18th, 2015, 06:55am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
That's odd. I thought that would be a song Phil would really like. I love it personally. Beautiful, emotional, melancholic, clever lyrics.


Agreed. I would've liked to see Many Too Many in there.

My predicted setlist was similar to the real one as well. I was actually quite happy with it-as I feel it represented all their material quite well. The only things I'd have changed were these:

1. In That Quiet Earth/Afterglow, OR ITQE/Apocalypse in 9/8 instead of Cinema Show/Duke's Travels/Afterglow. I know we'd be missing out on Afterglow, but I'd gladly sacrifice it to hear Supper's Ready!
2. The Cinema Show in its entirety instead of Home By The Sea
3. Abacab and That's All instead of Domino (I know its a popular stage piece, but there's already so much IT material in the set, plus Domino isn't really a well known song.)

The only song I really was "disappointed" they didn't play was Abacab (and that there was NO representation from that album). If they'd have done the list that way, I would have LOVED it!
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