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RIP David Bowie
Post by Yild4Genesis on Jan 11th, 2016, 01:56am

Simply gutted...
cry
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35278872
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by MikeHolmes on Jan 11th, 2016, 02:53am

Still shocked to see an iconic figure from our formative years gone. Enjoyed a run through Station to Station and the Berlin Trilogy over the Christmas break and just yesterday, working on my digitised photo project, reached 1978 and the Bowie concert at Newcastle City Hall.
Ziggy played at maximum volume this evening will be an appropriate tribute I think for someone who was a huge influence on my life in so many ways.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by John Wilkinson on Jan 11th, 2016, 03:04am

Never a massive fan to be honest (I like the hits of course) but always sad when someone who brought so much joy to many passes away

RIP David.

Best wishes

John
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by NoSonOfVine on Jan 11th, 2016, 05:11am

Another U.K. legend taken from us. sad

He went to space, visited Mars, met the spiders, came back home, sold the world, wrote about it all... and he was just getting started.

R.I.P. sad
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by alfredthegreat on Jan 11th, 2016, 05:40am

R.I.P David Bowie.
ICON.LEGEND.GENIUS.
Loved his seventies works,the later years not so much,but still a giant in rock music.
Sad day.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Witchwood on Jan 11th, 2016, 06:23am

This came as a complete shock to me in light of the fact he just released an album three days ago. I didn't realize he was ill.

Sadly enough, I thought in the 2000s - with releases like Heathen and Reality - he had hit a new stride, producing some of his best albums since Scary Monsters (1980).

Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Dust on Jan 11th, 2016, 06:26am

One of the all-time greats. I'm deeply saddened. cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by CountingOutTime on Jan 11th, 2016, 08:48am

I'm shocked and saddened. Going to play the Ziggy Stardust album now. cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by proginrev on Jan 11th, 2016, 09:06am

Simply gutted. Got into him through the Berlin trilogy, such innovative and influential albums. Thought he was an amazing singles artist. The Next Day was an incredible album for someone to return to the music scene after such a long hiatus. Only bought Blackstar on Friday. He was more than a musician, a true artist. Mysterious and yet real. Love him in the film The Man That Fell to Earth. So many bands I got into would name him as an influence; Bauhaus, The Cure, Ultravox, the Editors, the list is endless. A musical chameleon and genius. Will be sadly missed.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by foxfeeder on Jan 11th, 2016, 10:48am

on Jan 11th, 2016, 03:04am, John Wilkinson wrote:
Never a massive fan to be honest (I like the hits of course) but always sad when someone who brought so much joy to many passes away

RIP David.

Best wishes

John


My thoughts exactly. I could probably name my favourite songs by him on the fingers of 2 hands, the obvious 2 for me being Life on Mars and Space Oddity, but I do feel enormous sympathy for his fans, here and elsewhere. I know how much my musical heroes (pun) mean to me, so I can empathise.

He seems to have done a Freddie Mercury, working through his illness to produce a final item for the fans, and, I guess, keeping him occupied and thus diverted from the looming horizon. RIP David, you brought joy to many and that's a rare gift!
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by boredatwork on Jan 11th, 2016, 11:07am

on Jan 11th, 2016, 06:23am, Witchwood wrote:
This came as a complete shock to me in light of the fact he just released an album three days ago. I didn't realize he was ill.

He deliberately kept the illness secret to maximise the impact of his death. It was the last great surprise he had for us.

What a unique talent. I’m stunned. Still can’t quite believe it.
R.I.P. to a true legend cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by FeelItComing on Jan 11th, 2016, 3:57pm

I had the great privilege of seeing David on the Let's Dance tour at the old Sydney Showground. He was a unique talent who will never be forgotten. I think the next time I hear Heroes I will probably cry.

Rest In Peace, Starman. cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Yild4Genesis on Jan 11th, 2016, 5:25pm

on Jan 11th, 2016, 11:07am, boredatwork wrote:
He deliberately kept the illness secret to maximise the impact of his death.


Where did you hear that? Seems strange to me
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by thefarmer on Jan 11th, 2016, 8:12pm

Devastated.
The first album I ever bought was alladin sane 43 years ago when I was 11. The last album I bought was blackstar 2 days ago. I never met him and feel strange getting all emotional over it all but it feels like he's been with me all these years.
Shit!
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by FeelItComing on Jan 11th, 2016, 9:07pm

on Jan 11th, 2016, 5:25pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
Where did you hear that? Seems strange to me


http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/david-bowie-dead-inner-circle-kept-killer-cancer-a-secret-20160112-gm3u0a.html
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Yild4Genesis on Jan 11th, 2016, 9:41pm

on Jan 11th, 2016, 9:07pm, FeelItComing wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/david-bowie-dead-inner-circle-kept-killer-cancer-a-secret-20160112-gm3u0a.html


The article confirms he kept his illness a secret from fans which is not in dispute. The " to maximise the impact of his death" bit is what I find strange..
It conjures images of deliberately using his death as some sort of contrived act as opposed to him keeping it a secret for the mere fact he wanted to keep his family's privacy.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by boredatwork on Jan 12th, 2016, 04:15am

on Jan 11th, 2016, 5:25pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
Where did you hear that? Seems strange to me

Not strange at all - for him. You can piece it together from the lyrics & videos for “Blackstar” especially the song “Lazarus” & from what its producer Tony Visconti has said. I’m hardly the only person to think this - Jarvis Cocker even said it live on air while I was making that post! And here’s further confirmation:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/12092542/Bowies-last-album-was-parting-gift-for-fans-in-carefully-planned-finale.html

Agreed, part of the reason he kept the cancer secret must have been to preserve his family’s privacy. But this is Bowie, the consummate artist who spent his life surprising us by changing. So much of his life was a performance that it makes sense that once he knew his time was limited he’d plan his death to be one too, & for that it had to be unexpected. He couldn’t plan exactly when he’d die, but if anyone could have hung on to life by sheer willpower in time for the album to be completed & released, it was him. He couldn’t escape death but he used it for his own ends - how many other people can do that? Massive respect to him!

Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by ericm on Jan 12th, 2016, 05:01am

on Jan 11th, 2016, 9:07pm, FeelItComing wrote:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/david-bowie-dead-inner-circle-kept-killer-cancer-a-secret-20160112-gm3u0a.html


Yes,he kept his illness a secret, and that article talks about that but nowhere does it say he did so to "maximize" the impact of his death.

I respect him wanting to keep it a secret but I think it's quite a stretch to think that was the reason why he did.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Merryman72 on Jan 12th, 2016, 05:11am

Was shocked to wake up to this news yesterday. I've been really getting into a lot of Bowie's work recently.

Here's a beautiful tribute from Rick Wakeman:


Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Squigelyfox on Jan 12th, 2016, 07:18am

on Jan 11th, 2016, 9:41pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
The article confirms he kept his illness a secret from fans which is not in dispute. The " to maximise the impact of his death" bit is what I find strange..
It conjures images of deliberately using his death as some sort of contrived act as opposed to him keeping it a secret for the mere fact he wanted to keep his family's privacy.


Yes, sounds rather cruel to me. I'll go with the fact he wanted privacy.

Not a big fan, but liked some of his songs.

R I P David. sad
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by NedFlanders on Jan 12th, 2016, 07:37am

Been a die hard fan since 1970 and own virtually everything he recorded. Had the haircut in early 70s, saw him in 73 and devastated to hear that he has gone. A true legend in music, art and fashion and I will never see his like again. The world of pop and rock is a poorer place for his passing.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by boredatwork on Jan 12th, 2016, 08:00am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 05:01am, ericm wrote:
Yes,he kept his illness a secret, and that article talks about that but nowhere does it say he did so to "maximize" the impact of his death.

I respect him wanting to keep it a secret but I think it's quite a stretch to think that was the reason why he did.


on Jan 12th, 2016, 07:18am, Squigelyfox wrote:
Yes, sounds rather cruel to me. I'll go with the fact he wanted privacy.

I really think you’re missing something essential about him which helped make him the phenomenon he was.

As a great performance artist he seized the opportunity to give a truly memorable final performance. He aimed to surprise us all for one last time, & if we’d known he had cancer we’d have been less surprised. In 2013 his “The Next Day” album made headlines worldwide because it was completely unannounced. Much of the reason Elvis’s, John Lennon’s & Michael Jackson’s deaths had such an impact was because they were unexpected. He was given the chance to go out with a similar big bang, & if he hadn’t risen to that challenge he’d have been an ordinary person. But he wasn’t. He was Bowie.

Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by ericm on Jan 12th, 2016, 10:38am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 08:00am, boredatwork wrote:
I really think you’re missing something essential about him which helped make him the phenomenon he was.

As a great performance artist he seized the opportunity to give a truly memorable final performance. He aimed to surprise us all for one last time, & if we’d known he had cancer we’d have been less surprised. In 2013 his “The Next Day” album made headlines worldwide because it was completely unannounced. Much of the reason Elvis’s, John Lennon’s & Michael Jackson’s deaths had such an impact was because they were unexpected. He was given the chance to go out with a similar big bang, & if he hadn’t risen to that challenge he’d have been an ordinary person. But he wasn’t. He was Bowie.


You're correct about his greatness and uniqueness but I think you're reaching big time with him keeping his illness quiet in order to make his death more impactful.

I don't think it's nearly the same thing to keep the making of an album quiet until release and keeping an illness quiet. I'd say it was probably more a pride thing and not wanting sympathy or people feeling bad for him. Plus simply just wanting privacy for himself and his family.

Having dealt with illness in my own family one of the main things they all had in common was just wanting to be treated normally. No muss, no fuss. They knew they were sick, and what they needed to do. They didn't need everyone knowing they were sick and treating them as such. Even though people mean well, it was being reminded of their illness they didn't want. I'd bet Bowie felt similarly.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by boredatwork on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:24am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 10:38am, ericm wrote:
You're correct about his greatness and uniqueness but I think you're reaching big time with him keeping his illness quiet in order to make his death more impactful.

I don't think it's nearly the same thing to keep the making of an album quiet until release and keeping an illness quiet. I'd say it was probably more a pride thing and not wanting sympathy or people feeling bad for him. Plus simply just wanting privacy for himself and his family.

Having dealt with illness in my own family one of the main things they all had in common was just wanting to be treated normally. No muss, no fuss. They knew they were sick, and what they needed to do. They didn't need everyone knowing they were sick and treating them as such. Even though people mean well, it was being reminded of their illness they didn't want. I'd bet Bowie felt similarly.

I’m sure all those considerations about wanting privacy for his family & minimal fuss over his illness were also true, but why should he have only that one motive? As Tony Visconti said: “His death was no different from his life - a work of Art.” i.e. his death was in part a choreographed performance. To say he didn’t deliberately exploit the secrecy surrounding his illness (even if that secrecy was imposed by the need for privacy) to heighten the effect of his demise is to underestimate him as a great performer.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by CountingOutTime on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:36am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:24am, boredatwork wrote:
I’m sure all those considerations about wanting privacy for his family & minimal fuss over his illness were also true, but why should he have only that one motive? As Tony Visconti said: “His death was no different from his life - a work of Art.” i.e. his death was in part a choreographed performance. To say he didn’t deliberately exploit the secrecy surrounding his illness (even if that secrecy was imposed by the need for privacy) to heighten the effect of his demise is to underestimate him as a great performer.


I agree with you. After hearing the new album and seeing his "Lazarus" video, I too have come to the conclusion that the secrecy behind his dying was multifold. He certainly would not have wanted his fans to mourn him for the 18-month period of his dying, and the fact that he hid his recording sessions from his label also eludes to the fact that this was leading up to the album being a final performance by someone the likes of whom we will never witness again.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by foxfeeder on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:38am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 05:01am, ericm wrote:
Yes,he kept his illness a secret, and that article talks about that but nowhere does it say he did so to "maximize" the impact of his death.

I respect him wanting to keep it a secret but I think it's quite a stretch to think that was the reason why he did.


Perhaps the phrase "maximize the impact of his death" is a little over the top, but given the timing of the release, the words of the song, and the fact he knew it was coming for 18 months, it seems clear that he wanted the album to hit the streets just as he was about to leave them. All manner of speculation can abound about it all, but I think he may have felt that, as he knew his death would matter to a lot of people, at least he could leave them a goodbye present when he went.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by ericm on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:40am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:24am, boredatwork wrote:
I’m sure all those considerations about wanting privacy for his family & minimal fuss over his illness were also true, but why should he have only that one motive? As Tony Visconti said: “His death was no different from his life - a work of Art.” i.e. his death was in part a choreographed performance. To say he didn’t deliberately exploit the secrecy surrounding his illness (even if that secrecy was imposed by the need for privacy) to heighten the effect of his demise is to underestimate him as a great performer.


Because to me when it boils right down to it he was human. His talent and performances were part of him but to think that was the biggest part would
be minimizing his personal side, his family and loved ones. By all accounts he was a pretty great guy and I have a hard time thinking he put his professional side and ego above them.

I don't think this was choreographed to be some great farewell performance. To me that would actually diminish his human, personal side.

Different strokes, and we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Dr. John on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:46am

Bowie knew he was dying, so I'm sure he had to think about whether to let that information be public and if so, when. Although privacy may have been one consideration, I would be very surprised if he did not carefully reflect on what impact artistically such news would have at different points. The video for Lazarus in particular shows how consciously he was using his imminent death to add meaning to his art. It wouldn't be a case of him being manipulative or using his death in a contrived manner; it would be simply be him being very thoughtful about how his death would affect how people experience his last artistic work. So I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple considerations going into when he wanted people to know about his illness.

Certainly for me, his death adds incredible poignance to this final album.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by ericm on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:50am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:36am, CountingOutTime wrote:
I agree with you. After hearing the new album and seeing his "Lazarus" video, I too have come to the conclusion that the secrecy behind his dying was multifold. He certainly would not have wanted his fans to mourn him for the 18-month period of his dying, and the fact that he hid his recording sessions from his label also eludes to the fact that this was leading up to the album being a final performance by someone the likes of whom we will never witness again.


This I can get on board with. I can see him wanting to possibly maximize the albums impact. I can't see however him wanting to maximize his death's impact.

As for his fans mourning for 18 months, I'm not so sure about that. IMO, it's more about him wanting to keep things as normal as possible and not wanting the pity, sympathies or reminders during his battle.

Surely the shock of his death hit his fans hard, and if they were a consideration maybe a little something would've been put out there in his final days so fans could've been a little more prepared? The way it went, I'm not convinced the fans were part of his thinking at all, beyond the release of the album. JMHO.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Mia on Jan 12th, 2016, 1:58pm

Absolutely devastating news.... cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by AnythingNow on Jan 13th, 2016, 10:23am

This is really sad news. cry

I have never been a big Bowie fan, although of course I like many of his hit songs. However, I listened to his new album yesterday, and I have to say it is absolutely amazing! This I will surely listen to a lot!
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Squigelyfox on Jan 13th, 2016, 11:06am

on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:24am, boredatwork wrote:
I’m sure all those considerations about wanting privacy for his family & minimal fuss over his illness were also true, but why should he have only that one motive? As Tony Visconti said: “His death was no different from his life - a work of Art.” i.e. his death was in part a choreographed performance. To say he didn’t deliberately exploit the secrecy surrounding his illness (even if that secrecy was imposed by the need for privacy) to heighten the effect of his demise is to underestimate him as a great performer.


I still don't like the thought of it. Sounds a bit creepy to me.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by CountingOutTime on Jan 13th, 2016, 12:09pm

I never knew that Rick Wakeman played on Bowie's "Life On Mars" track from his 1971 album 'Hunky Dory.'

Wakeman performed a piano version for the BBC the day David Bowie died.

Makes me cry.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03f8qql

Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Dust on Jan 13th, 2016, 4:06pm

Clearly there are people here who think that using one's death as a piece of performance art is a bit tasteless and, as Squiggely understandably puts it, "creepy".

Others are in the "he died as he lived" camp, believing that he planned to make sure the timing of his demise made some sort of artistic statement... a final coda to a glorious life uniquely lived.

Perhaps we'll have some confirmation from his friends and family sometime soon. In the meantime, I can understand both points of view. For now it doesn't really matter to me, as I have a lifetime of wonderful music to celebrate his time on earth as well as to marvel over the eternal art he has left us with.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by FeelItComing on Jan 13th, 2016, 4:15pm

on Jan 13th, 2016, 12:09pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
I never knew that Rick Wakeman played on Bowie's "Life On Mars" track from his 1971 album 'Hunky Dory.'

Wakeman performed a piano version for the BBC the day David Bowie died.

Makes me cry.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03f8qql




That was perfect.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Liam on Jan 15th, 2016, 11:30am

on Jan 13th, 2016, 4:06pm, Dust wrote:
Clearly there are people here who think that using one's death as a piece of performance art is a bit tasteless and, as Squiggely understandably puts it, "creepy".

Others are in the "he died as he lived" camp, believing that he planned to make sure the timing of his demise made some sort of artistic statement... a final coda to a glorious life uniquely lived.

Perhaps we'll have some confirmation from his friends and family sometime soon. In the meantime, I can understand both points of view. For now it doesn't really matter to me, as I have a lifetime of wonderful music to celebrate his time on earth as well as to marvel over the eternal art he has left us with.



I'm kind of in the 'he died as he lived' camp, not that it makes any difference what I think. Just glad I appreciated a lot of his music while he was still with us. Hunky Dory will always be a favourite.


Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by Paloma on Jan 22nd, 2016, 2:26pm

I always have been a big fan and I will never forget January 11st, I woke up at 8 am and the first thing I read was he had passed away. At first I thought it was a heart attack as he had had heart problems, but when I read it had been cancer it was even worse. Totally shocking news, took me a while to react and spent the whole day in shock.

I still can't believe it cry

I refuse to believe that all his creativity, talent and charisma disappeared from one second to the next one last January 10th.

I was very lucky to see him in 1987 in Madrid, the first time he played in Spain, during the Glass Spider tour, front row and I will never forget that.

About that article speaking about Bowie keeping his death secret to cause a big impact, I simply think it is the journalist opinion and, in my opinion, it is far from being true.

I read somewhere an interview, I think it was Tony Visconti, and he said he fought against cancer and he wanted to live and was following a new treatment and nobody thought he would die so quickly.

The last album is brilliant, sad I agree and it sounds like a farewell at some points, but absolutely brilliant.

Rest in peace David Bowie. You will be forever missed. cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by slowdancer on Feb 9th, 2016, 11:55am

In 1977 I became a good friend of one of my school-mates. He was an ardent Bowie fan and had all his albums. I remember hanging out with him listening to his music. At that time, I really didn`t get Bowie at all. But I was fascinated by my friend`s passion for him. In later years, I learned to appreciate Bowie`s work. I became a fan of especially the Station To Station and Heroes albums, which I listen to up to this day. I lost contact with my friend, but when I heard of Bowie`s death, I got heavy flashbacks of the year 1977 and the time, we spent together. I am deeply saddened by Bowie`s death. Although he never was part of my closer musical interest, I always appreciated his musical skills and what he gave to the world, while he was part of it. R.I.P. David Bowie.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by slowdancer on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:26pm

on Feb 9th, 2016, 11:55am, slowdancer wrote:
In 1977 I became a good friend of one of my school-mates. He was an ardent Bowie fan and had all his albums. I remember hanging out with him listening to his music. At that time, I really didn`t get Bowie at all. But I was fascinated by my friend`s passion for him. In later years, I learned to appreciate Bowie`s work. I became a fan of especially the Station To Station and Heroes albums, which I listen to up to this day. I lost contact with my friend, but when I heard of Bowie`s death, I got heavy flashbacks of the year 1977 and the time, we spent together. I am deeply saddened by Bowie`s death. Although he never was part of my closer musical interest, I always appreciated his musical skills and what he gave to the world, while he was part of it. R.I.P. David Bowie.


The friend, I mentioned in this post died last sunday at the age of 51. Words fail me...
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by CountingOutTime on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:29pm

on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:26pm, slowdancer wrote:
The friend, I mentioned in this post died last sunday at the age of 51. Words fail me...


So sorry to hear this terrible news. Very sad.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by slowdancer on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:41pm

Thank you, David. I am petrified and don't know how to cope with this...
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by CountingOutTime on Mar 16th, 2016, 2:21pm

on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:41pm, slowdancer wrote:
Thank you, David. I am petrified and don't know how to cope with this...


You didn't mention how he died; not that it matters; it's horrible either way. He was way too young. I pray for peace for both you and his family.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by slowdancer on Mar 16th, 2016, 2:54pm

The obituary says, that he died after a long and heavy disease. The obituary starts with the words: "Look up here, I`m in heaven - David Bowie-Lazarus"

The spooky thing is, that I have listened to Backstar, the day he died. I had made up my mind the weeks before to take up contact with him again. The only contact information, I found in the internet was the address and phone number of his parents. I didn`t call him up then. I wish, I had.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by CountingOutTime on Mar 16th, 2016, 3:14pm

on Mar 16th, 2016, 2:54pm, slowdancer wrote:
The obituary says, that he died after a long and heavy disease. The obituary starts with the words: "Look up here, I`m in heaven - David Bowie-Lazarus"

The spooky thing is, that I have listened to Backstar, the day he died. I had made up my mind the weeks before to take up contact with him again. The only contact information, I found in the internet was the address and phone number of his parents. I didn`t call him up then. I wish, I had.


That IS pretty trippy. He must really have been a Bowie fan, big time, for his family to include lyrics from one of his songs; especially bizarre that it was Lazarus and you listened to it the day he passed. I can see why it would freak you out.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by NoSonOfVine on Mar 16th, 2016, 3:57pm

on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:26pm, slowdancer wrote:
The friend, I mentioned in this post died last sunday at the age of 51. Words fail me...

That's awful. Sorry to hear that. cry
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by FeelItComing on Mar 16th, 2016, 5:26pm

on Mar 16th, 2016, 1:26pm, slowdancer wrote:
The friend, I mentioned in this post died last sunday at the age of 51. Words fail me...


How dreadful for you. You have my sympathy.
Re: RIP David Bowie
Post by slowdancer on Mar 17th, 2016, 10:32am

Trank you all for your replies, folks.