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« Thread started on: Jan 14th, 2011, 6:35pm »

Much has been discussed about Steve's live guitar rig... guitars, amps, effects, etc.... but not much is known about his studio gear.

So, more trivia for you. Back in the early days of GENESIS (PG era), Steve quite often used a FENDER CHAMP amp in the studio. This was in the early 70s and this amp was a beginner's amp... quite simple...

It had a 6 watt power amplifier and an 8 inch speaker. It has had three knobs:

VOLUME
TREBLE
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BASS


That was it. I am not sure about the next statement, but I do think that this AMP was used by STEVE for most of the FOXTROT studio sessions tracked with a SHURE SM-57 mic.

So, it just goes to prove that you don't need a stack of Marshalls to sound LOUD and FULL (think of some of the heavy guitar parts in Supper's Ready).

Oh, and by the way, this amp sold for something like $49 back in 1971. A vintage model (1970-1982) today in good shape can fetch as much as $400-$500 if all original.

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 15th, 2011, 12:53am »



I could try and ask him when I interview him on the 5th Feb....!

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 15th, 2011, 06:24am »

on Jan 14th, 2011, 6:35pm, jkleban wrote:
So, it just goes to prove that you don't need a stack of Marshalls to sound LOUD and FULL (think of some of the heavy guitar parts in Supper's Ready).


The big marshall (or any other brand) stacks are more cliche and for show then anything useful. An engineer would mike up just one amp. He doesn't need more to get the sound. However, there are guitarists having different amps for different tones.

But any amp can go loud. Loud is nothing more then volume. Its the quality of the speaker (and the quality of the engineer to place the mic right) that makes up for a good sound, when played loud. There are amps that sound better on "5" then on "11".

That said, I always believed that Hackett is a guitarist like most guitarists should be. He cares about tone and thinks about every nuance he plays. It's not a battle for him to crank the amp up to 11 and I always admired that in his playing.

Mike Rutherford's rig (marshall amps) was miked with SM57's too on the WCD tour.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 15th, 2011, 11:30am »

Mark,

I wish I could spend about 1 hour with Steve in my studio and ask him about production techniques from those early Genesis sessions.

He is a great guy and quite helpful.

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« Reply #4 on: Mar 8th, 2011, 3:42pm »

I try and balance any conversation with Steve....

Because on the face of it... I would be asking him about a Job he left in 1977.... over 34 Years Ago.... and thats a bit wierd...

Because how often would you ask a 61 Year old man what the job was like he left 34 years ago?

A bit odd...

Steve is a fantastic person though and quite helpful and kind!

But I try and bare the very above in mind when I chat with him, and I am a staunch Genesis fan and a big fan of his Solo stuff...

Mark

Ps, The interview was moved to another time but I still spent some time socialising and listening to new work of his!

PPs, The Marshall gear Steve uses isnt over the top nor is it extremely loud.... The Peavy Classic 50 amps were not used this time around and are not likely to be either... He bought them to record Harmonica..!
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 9th, 2011, 11:14am »

on Mar 8th, 2011, 3:42pm, markkenyon wrote:
I try and balance any conversation with Steve....

Because on the face of it... I would be asking him about a Job he left in 1977.... over 34 Years Ago.... and thats a bit wierd...

Because how often would you ask a 61 Year old man what the job was like he left 34 years ago?

A bit odd...

Steve is a fantastic person though and quite helpful and kind!

But I try and bare the very above in mind when I chat with him, and I am a staunch Genesis fan and a big fan of his Solo stuff...

Mark

Ps, The interview was moved to another time but I still spent some time socialising and listening to new work of his!

PPs, The Marshall gear Steve uses isnt over the top nor is it extremely loud.... The Peavy Classic 50 amps were not used this time around and are not likely to be either... He bought them to record Harmonica..!


I completely agree with you. He's very patient about questions about "all those years ago" and I guess they're inevitable, but there's so much to ask about his solo stuff and era, I'd just avoid the Genesis period.

By the way, seems there's some old studio gear of Steve's turning up on Ebay:

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/skimegaptera/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562
including his Linn drum from Cured. I bet there's a few here who'd like that, Eh Tangent? grin
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 10th, 2011, 3:43pm »

It just proves that it's the musician who makes the music, not a bunch of studio trickery.

Perhaps music executives today should consider this?
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 15th, 2011, 8:51pm »

That's nice to know. I've been thinking about getting into recording music again (it's been a while), and I got rid of the one tiny (half-broken) amp that I had; it's reassuring that I can buy something small and still have it be effective.
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« Reply #8 on: May 8th, 2011, 11:26am »

on Apr 10th, 2011, 3:43pm, Ego+ID/Wolfwork wrote:
It just proves that it's the musician who makes the music, not a bunch of studio trickery.

Perhaps music executives today should consider this?

I don't see why music executives should consider this. The problems with todays music are not because of studio trickery… Gabriel for example uses a lot more trickery then Hackett. But Gabriel's music sounds wonderful (with that I mean that it is that he uses it as enhancements, all that trickery serves a purpose). It's not really up to the music executive to turn the knobs. Thats what we have producers and assistants for.
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 5th, 2011, 6:57pm »

Santi Banks....

I agree with you. The studio "tricks" are there to just add interest. There is no doubt that all of the lads know how to make music... the studio wizardy justs makes it that much more interesting (at least for me).

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