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« Reply #3225 on: Nov 9th, 2017, 11:21am »

Would love another album!.... rolleyes grin
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« Reply #3226 on: Nov 12th, 2017, 11:04am »

I agree with Ned and Squigs about the Royal Albert Hall ticket prices. They're outrageous. I thought 45 was steep enough when I saw Roger Hodgson there in May, and 79 for Camel is by far the most expensive price I've ever paid to see one artist. I thought long and hard about forking out that much and in the end justified it because I go to so few gigs, pubs, cinemas and events nowdays and they are still my favourite band. I'm undecided about paying 89 to see Roger Waters in Hyde Park in July. At least with him you are guaranteed superb surround sound and spectacular lighting and visuals. At the RAH the acoustics are often poor - especially if you are 'Up in the Gods'.

High concert ticket prices nowdays are largely due the loss of revenue due to downloading and the internet and the realization that artists can make a much bigger margin on live gigs. While there are enough people willing to fork out 80 or more to see an act live, they will continue to do it. It's the same as Premier League football - no one is worth a salary of 300,000 a week, but while thousands are happy to pay upwards of 50 every weekend, the clubs will carry on paying the obscene salaries.

Camel always prided themselves on charging lower than average tickets prices. For that reason, I think the idea to play the Royal Albert Hall has come from an outside source, suggesting it would be a excellent pension oppotunity for Andy. He's worth it though! Work it out. 5, 200 seats at an average of 60 a seat.

By way of interest, when Camel last played the RAH, the best seats were 2.25 and the cheapest - 50p (and they had a orchestra to pay!).
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« Reply #3227 on: Nov 12th, 2017, 1:11pm »

on Nov 12th, 2017, 11:04am, Peter Beasley wrote:
I agree with Ned and Squigs about the Royal Albert Hall ticket prices. They're outrageous. I thought 45 was steep enough when I saw Roger Hodgson there in May, and 79 for Camel is by far the most expensive price I've ever paid to see one artist. I thought long and hard about forking out that much and in the end justified it because I go to so few gigs, pubs, cinemas and events nowdays and they are still my favourite band. I'm undecided about paying 89 to see Roger Waters in Hyde Park in July. At least with him you are guaranteed superb surround sound and spectacular lighting and visuals. At the RAH the acoustics are often poor - especially if you are 'Up in the Gods'.

High concert ticket prices nowdays are largely due the loss of revenue due to downloading and the internet and the realization that artists can make a much bigger margin on live gigs. While there are enough people willing to fork out 80 or more to see an act live, they will continue to do it. It's the same as Premier League football - no one is worth a salary of 300,000 a week, but while thousands are happy to pay upwards of 50 every weekend, the clubs will carry on paying the obscene salaries.

Camel always prided themselves on charging lower than average tickets prices. For that reason, I think the idea to play the Royal Albert Hall has come from an outside source, suggesting it would be a excellent pension oppotunity for Andy. He's worth it though! Work it out. 5, 200 seats at an average of 60 a seat.

By way of interest, when Camel last played the RAH, the best seats were 2.25 and the cheapest - 50p (and they had a orchestra to pay!).


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« Reply #3228 on: Nov 12th, 2017, 6:13pm »

on Nov 12th, 2017, 11:04am, Peter Beasley wrote:
I agree with Ned and Squigs about the Royal Albert Hall ticket prices. They're outrageous. I thought 45 was steep enough when I saw Roger Hodgson there in May, and 79 for Camel is by far the most expensive price I've ever paid to see one artist. I thought long and hard about forking out that much and in the end justified it because I go to so few gigs, pubs, cinemas and events nowdays and they are still my favourite band. I'm undecided about paying 89 to see Roger Waters in Hyde Park in July. At least with him you are guaranteed superb surround sound and spectacular lighting and visuals. At the RAH the acoustics are often poor - especially if you are 'Up in the Gods'.

High concert ticket prices nowdays are largely due the loss of revenue due to downloading and the internet and the realization that artists can make a much bigger margin on live gigs. While there are enough people willing to fork out 80 or more to see an act live, they will continue to do it. It's the same as Premier League football - no one is worth a salary of 300,000 a week, but while thousands are happy to pay upwards of 50 every weekend, the clubs will carry on paying the obscene salaries.

Camel always prided themselves on charging lower than average tickets prices. For that reason, I think the idea to play the Royal Albert Hall has come from an outside source, suggesting it would be a excellent pension oppotunity for Andy. He's worth it though! Work it out. 5, 200 seats at an average of 60 a seat.

By way of interest, when Camel last played the RAH, the best seats were 2.25 and the cheapest - 50p (and they had a orchestra to pay!).


I remember reading that Camel didn't make a profit on that 1975 show though!

I doubt the RAH is a pension opportunity, as I think the hall itself will take a big cut. The rest of the Camel shows so far seem to be a lot cheaper too. Not a lot dearer than 2015 tbh.
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« Reply #3229 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 06:01am »

According to this article it generally costs 16,000 to rent the RAH (May 2016). The gross income from ticket sales I calculate roughly to be 5272 x 60 = 316,320. I'm confident that Camel will sell it out. Seems to me that after all other expenditures are taken into account, it still leaves the artist with a tidy sum.

http://sunnyinlondon.com/royal-albert-hall-tour-review/

And don't forget the seats in the front four rows are 195 each.
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« Reply #3230 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 3:49pm »

on Nov 13th, 2017, 06:01am, Peter Beasley wrote:
According to this article it generally costs 16,000 to rent the RAH (May 2016). The gross income from ticket sales I calculate roughly to be 5272 x 60 = 316,320. I'm confident that Camel will sell it out. Seems to me that after all other expenditures are taken into account, it still leaves the artist with a tidy sum.

http://sunnyinlondon.com/royal-albert-hall-tour-review/

And don't forget the seats in the front four rows are 195 each.


Hope they manage at least 1 Scottish date.
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« Reply #3231 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 5:19pm »

on Nov 13th, 2017, 06:01am, Peter Beasley wrote:
According to this article it generally costs 16,000 to rent the RAH (May 2016). The gross income from ticket sales I calculate roughly to be 5272 x 60 = 316,320. I'm confident that Camel will sell it out. Seems to me that after all other expenditures are taken into account, it still leaves the artist with a tidy sum.

http://sunnyinlondon.com/royal-albert-hall-tour-review/

And don't forget the seats in the front four rows are 195 each.


Not sure what they mean by "generally". Don't some venues take a percentage on top of their fee?

The front four rows shouldn't be that dear, maybe a touts price. I saw them at about 99.
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« Reply #3232 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 01:31am »

NB: 7 more UK dates added to the Moonmadness Tour
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« Reply #3233 on: Nov 28th, 2017, 06:52am »

Love Camel. Especially "Breathless" and "Rain Dances". cheesy
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« Reply #3234 on: Dec 6th, 2017, 05:56am »

Well, I see they added 2 dates in Tel Aviv wink
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« Reply #3235 on: Dec 6th, 2017, 2:29pm »

and 4 in spain and portugal cool
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« Reply #3236 on: Dec 7th, 2017, 4:38pm »

on Dec 6th, 2017, 2:29pm, Audioot wrote:
and 4 in spain and portugal cool


Yet no dates in Scotland. Seriously peeved.
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« Reply #3237 on: Dec 10th, 2017, 11:12am »

on Nov 13th, 2017, 06:01am, Peter Beasley wrote:
According to this article it generally costs 16,000 to rent the RAH (May 2016). The gross income from ticket sales I calculate roughly to be 5272 x 60 = 316,320. I'm confident that Camel will sell it out. Seems to me that after all other expenditures are taken into account, it still leaves the artist with a tidy sum.

http://sunnyinlondon.com/royal-albert-hall-tour-review/

And don't forget the seats in the front four rows are 195 each.


You must be right about those 4 rows, as the VIP tickets for the rest of the tour are over 100 too. Very disappointed about this...
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« Reply #3238 on: Dec 10th, 2017, 11:13am »

on Dec 6th, 2017, 05:56am, Audioot wrote:
Well, I see they added 2 dates in Tel Aviv wink


Is that place even safe? I think not.
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