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question Are music fans being ripped off?
« Thread started on: Nov 16th, 2016, 03:53am »

Given the discussions about the value of deluxe reissues etc in other threads, here's an interesting article on the repackaging of music:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/16/pop-music-bespoke-plaything-wealth-divide
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 09:13am »

Even though I typically resist the temptation of purchasing repackaged or enhanced albums I already own, I can't blame artists today for trying to milk whatever profits they can through their products and performance.

Itís a reaction to a changing world.

We live in a generation where people think they are entitled to listen to and download music at no cost.
I suppose the artists have to make it up somehow.

Unfortunately, the end result is you now have different tiers of products and concert experiences based on what youíre willing to spend.
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 09:41am »

Some of these super ultra mega deluxe packagings take it really over the top, like that re-release of U2's Achtung Baby which included not just 30 album and single CDs, vinyls and DVDs, a book, original concert tickets and supersize posters but also sunglasses, an exploded tire of the 1989 tour truck and other slightly questionable souvenirs. Then again: there is a normal non-deluxe version as well which comes just as a simple CD with a sleeve and a booklet. Nobody is forced to buy these mega-packages, I see the whining about "milking" ridiculous too. If your urge to own all these overpriced packages of all your favourite bands' albums is stronger than the pressure of a second mortgage on your house - then sorry, you lost me.
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 10:26am »

I don't mind some deluxe and super deluxe editions. I mainly go for the additional unreleased tracks and live concerts that are often added in. The deluxe Who's Next has the original Record Plant recordings, which are great in their own right, and a live concert at the Young Vic of the material at the time. That's a pretty good deal.

And I have no problem with artists trying to keep their income coming in. If you own a business, you should try to ensure that you continue to make sales of your product.

What irritates me is when you have serial deluxe, super deluxe, and then super super deluxe versions, each one with just a few more nuggets than the last. I would like them to just get it right the first time or put out the various versions all at once so I can choose what I want. There are several albums where I have multiple versions, when I really only need one that has all of the material.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 12:21pm »

"there was one Dark Side of the Moon, Revolver or Never Mind the Bollocks Hereís the Sex Pistols; and whether you were the Sultan of Brunei or the stereotypical kid on the dole, that was the one you owned."

Actually, there was an original UK "Revolver" and a US "Revolver." Other classic albums also had different UK vs. US versions, and in the 60s you had your mono vs. stereo versions to boot. And look at all the different versions of Thomas Dolby's "The Golden Age of Wireless." There are many other cases, long before the age of CD reissues and deluxe editions, where there was more than just one version of an album. Personally, I've always preferred having just one version of a given album, or at least knowing which version is the "real" one.

As for bonus tracks and extras on reissues, well... to me, at least, they'll never really be part of the album they're added to.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 12:27pm »

I think we are the lucky ones. At least we have the choice of buying or not buying these packages. In 25 years time, listeners will only have the option of very cheap crap compression versions of crap songs by (c) rap artists.

Given the poor income, will proper musicians still exist by then?
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 2:29pm »

My biggest gripe is when as a fan you buy the album on release. and then maybe only six months to a year later the album is released with a second disc. I think this is playing a game where they know real fans will buy it again. That is out of order.
Anyone else find most extra discs okay but not mind-blowing? Mostly end up disappointed. Listen to, find interesting as a completest, but they rarely get play time.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 16th, 2016, 3:13pm »

Or when a well known ex Genesis band member releases a remastered version of an album with a bonus DVD of a concert never released before and then a year later releases the same concert on Bluray....
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 17th, 2016, 08:45am »

on Nov 16th, 2016, 3:13pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
Or when a well known ex Genesis band member releases a remastered version of an album with a bonus DVD of a concert never released before and then a year later releases the same concert on Bluray....
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LOL I was thinking the same thing.
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