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« Thread started on: Jun 7th, 2017, 09:17am »

I just can't get in to it. I've tried giving it proper listens numerous times but for the most part it's just awful! There's a few decent songs, but it just feels like he was on autopilot for most of it. I hate the naff 'down with the kids' rhythms of some of the songs. Has anyone managed to feel the album more than me?
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 7th, 2017, 6:40pm »

Nope..he lost me after But Seriously
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 7th, 2017, 7:05pm »

I like the following songs:

Wake Up Call
Don't Get Me Started
Swing Low
It's Not Too Late
The Least You Can Do

The rest of it ... if I want to hear endless lovelorn ballads I will stick with the previous albums.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 8th, 2017, 06:22am »

i don't think phil has earned any new fans with his albums after but seriously -i mean, both sides, dance into the light and testify-. keeping the fans he already had, maybe; but earning new ones, hardly.

however, the disney soundtracks did appeal many people.

so there are two possibilities:

- phil made the effort to write good songs for disney, but he was lazy when it came to making his albums.

- phil's albums after but seriously are so intimate and personal that are hard to digest for most people.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 8th, 2017, 10:14am »

To me, it's one of the most average sounding albums I've ever listened to. It doesn't have any bad songs, but none of them did anything for me.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 8th, 2017, 4:06pm »

For me it was a massive return to form after Dance Into the Light, which is the only PC album I don't like!

I remember though it took a while to click and I used to start it on track four, Don't Get Me Started... And then listen to the first three tracks at the end. It worked much better for me like that, so might be worth a try if you're struggling.

Mind you, I also listen to side two of ...And Then There Were Three before side one!!
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 13th, 2017, 9:10pm »

I'm surprised to hear more people didn't like Both Sides, and at least some of DITL. (though this thread currently only has about 6 posts!) IMO those are not perfect albums, but they each have a few great songs!

I agree about Tarzan-it definitely did open Phil Collins up to some "new" fans he didn't have before. Brother Bear, not so much. Some decent stuff, I enjoy Look Thru My Eyes and No Way Out. But IMO Brother Bear suffered on several levels: it was badly marketed, it was the last Disney animated film made in the "old-fashioned way" in an era where CG animation was pretty much the new norm so it didn't do so well. Also, IMO it felt like Phil (and I'm sure Disney execs-who have a say in it) were trying too hard to replicate the sound/success of Tarzan with his songs, and we all know how that works.

As for Testify, I agree it's definitely the weakest of his original albums, but IMO it still has some good songs on it:

-Come With Me (one of my favorite PC songs, a beautiful song based on a lullaby he sang for his daughter back in the early 90's)
-Wake Up Call (a great Phil Collins song, with his classic sound)
-It's Not Too Late (a beautiful, moving song about life)
-Driving Me Crazy (love this song, good groove-sounds like it could've been on DITL)
-Can't Stop Loving You (cover, but easy to like, and a catchy song)

I also think Least You Can Do is good, although I'm not a huge fan of the drum machine on there. I'm also surprised Crystal Clear wasn't on the album, in favor of IMO weaker songs like You Touch My Heart or This Love This Heart. IMO Crystal Clear is much better.

I will admit that there are several quite weak songs on there that sound...unfinished, so to speak. What it really sounds like to me really reflects how Phil was putting together these songs on his new ProTools program, and he was basically learning the program as he recorded. I mean it sounds like it was put together by someone who doesn't really know the ins-and-outs of the program yet. I feel some of these songs, especially testify, Don't Get Me Started and Thru My Eyes would've been much better if he made them live like before, rather than on his computer like he did for this one.
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