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« Thread started on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 10:59am »

Over the past years, I'm finding more and more metal genre bands hitting the prog sites... While I accept this, I do find it very hard to absorb with this kind of music...

Both the guitar riffs and the raspy loud voices really disturb me.. I generally find this a kind of finger scratching on a chalk board type of music that literally send shivers down my spine with such annoyance... Whilst you might find it easy to ignore, my friends often like this music... Sometimes I will often have to leave a room.... Could never figure out why people like this type of music. Some of my friends love the guitar riffs but I cannot see it huh.. To me, it's like heavy strumming with that typical amplifier pic up sound...

On a positive note, there are quite a lot of genres within the progressive music field, so one can pick and choose... I previously discussed in another topic regarding genres, which has expanded, sometimes find it difficult to categorize the music and just purely go on the listening test, rather then the genre. smiley
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:02pm »

I assume your referring to many of the somewhat newer prog bands from the 90s to now such as Dream Theater, Tool, and the Mars Volta. I'm in agreement with you that I don't like the heavy sounds produced by these bands. They lack that "symphonic" sound that many of the 70s prog bands had.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:05pm »

I have a difficult time finding the clear line between metal and what gets broadly called hard rock. In the 70s and early 80s, bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and AC/DC were referred to as heavy metal (at least from what I remember at the time). And yet, I just view these bands as rock or hard rock now compared to early Metallica, Slayer, etc.

For me, the less melodic and the more punishing the riffing, the less I can get into it (although I don't quite have the nails on the chalkboard reaction). I can appreciate the musicianship, but I don't feel emotionally connected to the music.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:08pm »

on Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:02pm, rael1974 wrote:
I assume your referring to many of the somewhat newer prog bands from the 90s to now such as Dream Theater, Tool, and the Mars Volta. I'm in agreement with you that I don't like the heavy sounds produced by these bands. They lack that "symphonic" sound that many of the 70s prog bands had.


Those are only a few, but yes, I am referring to similar bands that you mentioned. There are quite a few hitting the prog sites.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:12pm »

on Aug 22nd, 2017, 12:05pm, Dr. John wrote:
I have a difficult time finding the clear line between metal and what gets broadly called hard rock. In the 70s and early 80s, bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, and AC/DC were referred to as heavy metal (at least from what I remember at the time). And yet, I just view these bands as rock or hard rock now compared to early Metallica, Slayer, etc.

For me, the less melodic and the more punishing the riffing, the less I can get into it (although I don't quite have the nails on the chalkboard reaction). I can appreciate the musicianship, but I don't feel emotionally connected to the music.


Led Zep, Black Sabbath and AC/DC, I regard as hard rock, rather then heavy metal... I can tolerate hard rock bands as their sound is quite varied. The guitar sounds don't appear to be too harsh on the ears. smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 5:54pm »

Not only do more and more metal bands enter prog, also more and more younger prog fans are actually metal fans who find their way from Tool, Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater to Deep Purple, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin. It's an interesting fact and obviously a generational thing. I belong to the "old" fraction who never got into metal though according to my age I should like it. The only metal band I ever used to love were Nightwish but they lost me, nowadays even their older records don't mean much to me any more.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 25th, 2017, 05:15am »

I'm rather late to this thread (haven't been on the forum much... haven't had much to say) but I'll give you my two cents.

Now, when I first heard metal, I'll admit that I was baffled by it. I couldn't for the life of me understand how anyone can listen to and enjoy loud and fast songs full of heavy riffs and nasty vocals. It sounded annoying, repetitive and ridiculous. However, after several weeks of trying different songs, I began to appreciate the hard-hitting, in-your-face sound of metal. It grew on me. The anger. The intensity. The action-packed feel. Eventually I understood why people like metal - it lets you release your negative emotions. Sometimes when I feel particularly angry, a few good metal songs get it right out of my system. The thick blast of crunching riffs and wild vocals can be wonderfully soothing to me, in a way. Obviously, too much metal makes it boring so I couldn't listen to it all the time, but now and again metal just works.

That doesn't mean I like gore-obsessed death metal bands like Cannibal Corpse though (there's literally a Cannibal Corpse album called "Gore Obsessed" in fact) because to me, the vast majority of death metal is too noisy and favours extremely fast speeds and constantly growling over melody, and that isn't what I look for in metal. A few death metal bands aren't bad though - Opeth and Amon Amarth are good examples. Because they put enough melody into their songs to make up for the deafening heaviness and growling.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 25th, 2017, 12:32pm »

Just for the sake of it, let's just mention there's lots of different types of metal. Power metal for example is a lot more digestable than death metal, it is something like a modernized faster version of 80s hard rock.
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