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« Thread started on: Apr 13th, 2017, 3:55pm »

i can't think of many songs by other bands that remind me of who dunnit, i mean, experimental tracks that seem to be conceived with the purpose of annoying the listener.

but there are at least two of those songs that come to my mind:

police's mother, written and sung by guitarist andy summers. i can't understand how sting and copeland were convinced to include this thing on the album. rolleyes



guns n roses' my world. axl's bandmates weren't aware that he had recorded this horror until the album 'use your illusion' was released.



i can also think of beatles' revolution 9, though i do like that one. cheesy



can you think of other songs that can be considered "the equivalent to who dunnit" by other bands?
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 13th, 2017, 4:40pm »

Let me start by stating that I like Who Dunnit....

The Eagles' Teenage Jail & The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks spring to mind.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 13th, 2017, 10:49pm »

Remote Romance by Camel has a very similar storyline - a prog rock band recording an uncharacteristic sounding new wave-ish pop tune, very different to anything else they've done.

I don't mind it, I actually like it better than Whodunnit, though not surprisingly many Camel fans detest that tune, just as there are a lot of Genesis fans who detest Whodunnit.

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« Reply #3 on: Apr 14th, 2017, 04:01am »

on Apr 13th, 2017, 10:49pm, Witchwood wrote:
Remote Romance by Camel has a very similar storyline - a prog rock band recording an uncharacteristic sounding new wave-ish pop tune, very different to anything else they've done.

I don't mind it, I actually like it better than Whodunnit, though not surprisingly many Camel fans detest that tune, just as there are a lot of Genesis fans who detest Whodunnit.


I'm okay with Remote Romance although I'll admit that it's below average for Camel.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 14th, 2017, 05:27am »

on Apr 13th, 2017, 10:49pm, Witchwood wrote:
Remote Romance by Camel has a very similar storyline - a prog rock band recording an uncharacteristic sounding new wave-ish pop tune, very different to anything else they've done.

I don't mind it, I actually like it better than Whodunnit, though not surprisingly many Camel fans detest that tune, just as there are a lot of Genesis fans who detest Whodunnit.



I don't mind this at all. So much better then " Whodunnits"... I agree with NSOV, not Camel's best, but equally a song you can listen too!.. smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 14th, 2017, 07:47am »

I don't run into much in the way of "who dunnits" among the relatively few bands I follow. I think the best I can do is "Free Form Guitar" from Chicago's first album -- 7 minutes of atonal guitar noise. I like it OK, but I can see why others wouldn't.

BTW, I'm a big fan of both "Who Dunnit?" and "Revolution 9."

Is a "who dunnit" being defined here as a really bad experimental track, or just one that divides fans because a large number of them hate it? Some of the tracks named here seem to fit one definition more than the other.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 14th, 2017, 11:30am »

on Apr 14th, 2017, 07:47am, onetwothree wrote:
Is a "who dunnit" being defined here as a really bad experimental track, or just one that divides fans because a large number of them hate it? Some of the tracks named here seem to fit one definition more than the other.


the first definition is pretty accurate. smiley i personally don't hate who dunnit either, but given the feedback from the fans, we can conclude that it's not exactly genesis finest hour.

i'll listen to that chicago's track. as for that song called remote romance by camel, i don't think it's bad but it's odd for a progressive band. it has reminded me of the cars (american new wave band).
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 15th, 2017, 01:36am »

These are the ones that I could think of that I hate that haven't been mentioned yet.

*Be My Girl - Sally (The Police)

*Happy Family (King Crimson)

*Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict (Pink Floyd)

*The Laughing Gnome (David Bowie)

*Life Is A Rat Race (Phil Collins) (I don't mind "The Man With The Horn" though)

*Anything John Lennon did that had a significant amount of Yoko Ono on it
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 15th, 2017, 03:15am »

on Apr 14th, 2017, 11:30am, Kerry95 wrote:
i'll listen to that chicago's track. as for that song called remote romance by camel, i don't think it's bad but it's odd for a progressive band. it has reminded me of the cars (american new wave band).


Andy Latimer admitted during the departure of certain members of the band, Pete Barden's being one. He went through a bad patch emotionally. During 78 - 82 Decca was forcing him to produce albums under contract... With albums such as I can see your house from here 1979 and Single Factor 1982. These were not the best albums made by Camel.. But with exceptional tracks such as Ice and Sasquatch being on both albums made this a viable purchase to Camel fans. Not sure if Decca wanted the band to move more into the popular side of music, which was not Camel's theme!...

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« Reply #9 on: Apr 15th, 2017, 10:23am »

on Apr 15th, 2017, 01:36am, rael1974 wrote:
*Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict (Pink Floyd)

I think there's just too much other weird stuff on that album (UMMAGUMMA) for that one to really stick out. The whole 2nd disc is kind of a "who dunnit" (as far as being experimental).
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 15th, 2017, 11:50am »

I like Who Dunnit and also like some of the atypical songs recorded by various other artists.

The Beatles were often experimental after 1965 and so they have a number of oddball tracks: Wild Honey Pie, You Know My Name (Look Up the Number), Dig It.

The Who also had a few, but they were mostly released as B-side or on later compilations, so they don't divide the fans as much: Cobwebs and Strange, Dogs, Wasp Man.

Similarly, REM had many clunkers that were B-sides (and hilariously compiled on Dead Letter Office). Perhaps the worst was the pathetic version of King of the Road in which Stipe doesn't know the lyrics and Buck and Mills aren't sure of the key or chords.
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 18th, 2017, 03:10am »

An interesting question, though off the top of my head I can't think of anything. Some of the tracks mentioned don't strike me necessarily as experimental, nor for that matter does Whodunnit. I'm with those who don't mind Whodunnit, while accepting it's not among the cream of Genesis's output.

While it's not completely in the spirit of the question I can think of certain tracks I can't stand by artists I like a lot e.g. Happiness by Goldfrapp.
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