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« Thread started on: Jun 1st, 2016, 03:03am »

Hi there!
We're studying with my band BACK in NYC!
The main riff was played by Hackett, Rutherford and Banks at the same time!
Rutherford used a fuzzed sound, Hackett probably his synthi hi-fli and Banks his ARP ProSoloist... but with which preset!? Do you know which preset Banks used!?
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 2nd, 2016, 7:21pm »

Hello,

Back in 2004 I got one of the Pro-Soloist Rack modules from Joachim Verghese. Three years earlier I'd borrowed Doug Melbourne's ARP Pro-Soloist (and an oscilloscope from work) and done side-by-side programming of my JV-1080 with all the patches I needed. I was getting ready to do the whole Lamb with ReGenesis at the time, and Joachim and I had had quite extensive conversations about which patches were used on which songs.

This song, however, was one of the few (along with Hairless heart), where I didn't switch over to the PSR when I got it, but carried on using the JV. Basically, whatever effects and overlaying of sounds Banks did in the studio meant I couldn't get a good enough sound using just one preset.

For info, in case they're useful anyway, I've copied Joachim's original comments below.

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The dominant voice here seems to be Steel Guitar. The signal is processed with the usual "slapback" echo for added depth. In fact, the slow vibrato in conjunction with the simple echo produces a pleasing chorus effect. To enable default vibrato, the Vibrato touch effect switch must be in the OFF position.

You can produce a similar sound using the Piano voice with maximum brilliance, but Piano doesn't have any vibrato, so you don't get the characterstic chorus effect.

The percussive component playing along to the synth line is probably Hackett on guitar. There's also a mellow part, possibly played by Rutherford on 6-string bass. In the studio that part might have been played by Banks, using a Piano sound on the ARP or RMI (I'm just guessing here).

At the end of the "Off we go" part there's a quiet section with notes that sound like French Horn with the brilliance slider set at 5/8 position. On the live version it seems Banks didn't change the voice for this part - it sounds like Steel Guitar, with Hackett playing the harmony. The sliding bass seems to be the Tuba voice with the portamento rate slider at 3/4.

For the second "porcupine cuddling" section, it seems Banks overdubbed the Steel Guitar line an octave lower. Also, you might experiment with faster vibrato settings for added "wobble" effect. As for the abrupt stop at the end of the section, I think Banks did that with a volume pedal, as none of the other similar voices (Piano, Harpsi...) seem to have a short enough release.

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« Reply #2 on: Jun 3rd, 2016, 04:26am »

Absolutely brilliant Piers!!
thanks a lot!

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« Reply #3 on: Jun 3rd, 2016, 1:52pm »

Hello again,

No problem! If you do any of the other Lamb tracks and want to pick my brains feel free.

In the mean time, have fun with Back In NYC, it's a great fun track to play.

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« Reply #4 on: Jun 15th, 2016, 09:57am »

Just for some other help, Rutherford plays the main riff (the D stuff) along with the boys on his baritone 6 string bass played at the 14 fret fingering of the D chord. Of course, he switches to fuzz bass in the obvious parts.

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