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« Thread started on: Feb 18th, 2018, 03:07am »

I was browsing Spotify and happened to come across "Refugees: A Charisma Records Anthology 1969-1978".

This three-disc set features Looking for Someone, Twilight Alehouse and Match of the Day, only these definitely aren't the Nick Davis remixes. They're completely new remasters of the original mixes from 2009, and they sound AMAZING! They're crystal clear, and dynamic without being too quiet. Mike's bass is actually audible. There are many discernable textures coming from distinct places in the mix, as opposed to everything being at more or less the same volume, in the centre of the mix. Wow. A modern sonic upgrade that in no way interferes with the soul or character of the music. They're just absolutely perfect, and I was truly overjoyed to discover them.

However, my happiness quickly turned to profound frustration. It pisses me off beyond words that the only options for non-vinyl listeners are the revisionist, dynamically stunted '07 remixes, or the horribly muffled-sounding 80s and 90s CDs. And yes, I'm including the so-called Definitive Editions in that description too; that version of Trespass is practically unlistenable.

It just had to be my favourite band of all time holding out on restoring their original mixes to print after a lacklustre, revisionist remixing campaign, didn't it? John Lennon's catalogue has been restored, Frank Zappa's too, but of course, Genesis just had to be the last ones to budge. FFS. Never have I seen an artist/group with such an astonishing creative legacy handle that legacy so poorly.

I'm far from the only one who feels this way. Why not just let whoever is responsible for these little beauties handle the entire catalogue, and release it in the form of some overpriced box set? Let the hearing-impaired keep their remixes if they wish, just give us the ability to choose. Fans have basically been crying "take my money" for the past ten years, and being told "no thanks" in response. It's crazy.

I still love you, Genesis, but you make it so bloody hard sometimes. angry
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 18th, 2018, 07:13am »

You’re totally right. New Genesis remasters from the original mixes are truly needed. The mastering on that Charisma Anthology isn’t amazing, but I agree it does provide a glimpse of the sonic potential of these recordings.

A better example is the 2014 ‘R-Kive’ compilation, mastered by Miles Showell at Abbey Road. The tracks ‘Abacab’, ‘Mama’, ‘That’s All’, ‘Invisible Touch’, ‘Land of Confusion’ and ‘Tonight, Tonight, Tonight’ are sourced from the original mixes by Hugh Padgham, and they sound fantastic!

The new stereo mixes from 2007/08 are a terrible mess, with the revisionism, bright over-compressed sound, and harsh nasally vocal EQ. The early Collins-era albums suffer the most.

Though strangely, the remixes of the live albums from the 2009 Live box set are a big improvement over the originals, particularly Seconds Out and Three Sides Live. It’s possible that Nick Davis had less supervision when mixing these and had learnt from earlier mistakes.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 18th, 2018, 07:51am »

Wow! This compilation is available as 3-disc CD box set as well. For the record: It features also Peter's Solsbury Hill, Steve's Star of Sirius, Brand X's Nuclear Burn and Sun In The Night plus lots of other artists' works - Alan Parsons Project, Lindisfarne, VDGG/Peter Hammill, The Nice/Keith Emerson, Hawkwind,... looks like a real treat! smiley
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