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xx Which albums did you love right on first listen
« Thread started on: Oct 12th, 2017, 07:27am »

I found some comments in other threads interesting how some albums needed time to grow while others clicked on the first time hearing them. According to some theory we might expect the later pop albums to be easier accessible; however when I look at which albums I loved right on the first time hearing them and which ones took me longer I get a different picture:

FGTR:
When I heard that one for the first time it literally left me with a "what in the world?!" So no, that one definitely needed its time to grow on me.

Trespass:
That one also took me longer, it just didn't grab me right away.

Nursery Cryme:
Funny enough, I had no problem with side 2, I liked each song right away - but side 1 gave me hard time, I struggled with the two epics, and the short but beautiful 'For Absent Friends' gets two overshadowed of these two long songs.

Foxtrot:
Bingo! No problem here, I loved all of it right from the first time. Just 'Get 'em out by Friday' seemed a little of a downer to me but it was okay, it still blends in well enough.

Selling England:
Loved, loved, loved it from the very first time. Except I didn't know for years that 'More Fool Me' even existed since my dad had skipped it on my cassette copy - but it didn't hurt me when I finally got to know it.

The Lamb:
No. Huge disappointment, not what I expected, couldn't get into it.

A Trick of The Tail:
Interestingly, I liked that one right away but I felt overwhelmed of it when I first it. It instantly left me with a feeling it would require its time to grow on me, I felt I couldn't grasp what I just heard, it was too much for me, meaning it was too good if that makes sense.

Wind and Wuthering:
Bingo, heard it and loved it right away.

And Then There Were Three:
Same problem as with Nursery Cryme: side 2 - no problem, loved all of it. Side 1 - didn't click with me, I was underwhelmed by each of the five songs (sorry to those who love Down and Out, Burning Rope, Undertow etc.).

Duke:
Loved it right away.

Abacab:
No, that one again left me with "what the heck". It took long to grow.

Genesis:
This one didn't leave a too favourable impression with me either, I could only warm with a few songs right away.

Invisible Touch:
No, another one that didn't get me though I didn't find it too bad.

We Can't Dance:
This one I loved right away!

Calling All Stations:
I liked that one right away but it clearly had its weaknesses.


So in the end it comes down to only 5 albums: Foxtrot, Selling England, Wind and Wuthering, Duke, and We Can't Dance - these were the ones that clicked with me on the very first listen; which means in general Genesis albums tended to require some time to get into them. Not that that's a bad thing. wink

So tell me, which albums clicked with you right away? I'm curious smiley
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 12th, 2017, 09:53am »

I find this very difficult to answer as I never really had proper first-listen experiences with Genesis albums. I got to know a lot of them a few songs at a time, due to my introduction being The Platinum Collection, and often listening to individual songs on YouTube as well as encountering them on live albums before properly listening to the studio albums all the way through.

For instance, before I ever bought Nursery Cryme, I knew "The Musical Box" very well from The Platinum Collection, and I had already bought Three Sides Live and Genesis Live so I already basically knew "The Return of the Giant Hogweed" and "Fountain of Salmacis"; then, I think I found the songs I hadn't previously heard on YouTube. I remember being particularly spellbound by "For Absent Friends" when I found it on YouTube. But there was never any true "first listen" of Nursery Cryme.

Similarly, if you take the self-titled album, the first 5 tracks are all on The Platinum Collection - that's more than half the album. So I knew most of the album before I had any concept of it as an album.

One album I do remember listening to for the first time would be A Trick of the Tail. This was very early on in my Genesis journey and was a rare album that I actually went out and bought from a shop (!), and therefore going home and listening to it was more of an event. With this album I only knew (and already adored!) the final three tracks, so there was still a bit of a discovery to make. I was very impressed. I remember hearing "Mad Man Moon" for the first time, lying on my bed in front of the stereo, and being completely blown away.

So ATOTT got a thumbs-up from the start. The only other comparable experiences would be listening to the first and last albums, which didn't exactly wow me but I wasn't really expecting them to.
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 12th, 2017, 2:32pm »

I think I liked (or loved) virtually all of them at first listen, with just a couple of exceptions. And Then There Were Three had something about it that didn't quite click, and to this day it's in my lower tier of favorites.

Calling All Stations, however, while I liked it initially, I've really come to...dislike isn't quite the right word, but all I really hear anymore are the flaws when I listen to it.
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 13th, 2017, 08:08am »

I didn't like Calling All Stations at first.

Invisible Touch and From Genesis to Revelation seemed very different, but I wouldn't say I disliked them.

Oh and initially I hated We Can't Dance.
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 13th, 2017, 10:47am »

Tresspass & Nursery Cryme took me a few listens to get into, but I got it song by song. Foxtrot, Selling England, The Lamb, Trick, W&W, Duke, & Abacab got me right away. Genesis, Invisible Touch, We Can't Dance, & Calling All Stations was similar to the first two, but different in the fact that songs were being played on the radio from these, so I had to be careful not to get over-exposed to them. I naturally gravitated toward the longer songs on these albums. And Then There Were Three took me the longest because I felt the songwriting was poor. However, I gained an appreciation once I heard the songs live on Archive 2. That's when they blew me away. So each album has had it's own journey in my life! cool
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 14th, 2017, 11:46am »

Loved on first listen:
  • Trespass
  • Nursery Cryme
  • Foxtrot
  • Selling England by the Pound
  • A Trick of the Tail
Loved parts of:
  • The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  • Wind & Wuthering
  • And Then There Were Three
  • Duke
Was indifferent toward:
  • From Genesis to Revelation
  • Abacab
  • Genesis
  • We Can't Dance
Strongly disliked on first listen:
  • Invisible Touch
  • Calling All Stations
My views haven't changed all that much since then...

Love today:
  • Trespass
  • Nursery Cryme
  • Foxtrot
  • Selling England by the Pound
  • The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
  • A Trick of the Tail
  • Wind & Wuthering
Love parts of:
  • And Then There Were Three
  • Duke
  • Abacab
Indifferent toward:
  • From Genesis to Revelation
  • Genesis
Strongly dislike:
  • Invisible Touch
  • We Can't Dance
  • Calling All Stations
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 15th, 2017, 08:20am »

I guess when you are hooked up on an artist you just want to like their music and of course you are heavily disappointed when you don't, that is my case anyway.
I bought or borrowed my Genesis albums in wildly random order, Abacab was the first I purchased upon release and by that time I had already listened to all previous ones.
I remember struggling with the Lamb but in the end, luckily, it was as rewarding for me as it was challenging.
All other Gabriel-era albums were a joy, same with the 4 man era. ATTW3 was....''thin'' for lack of better words, I still feel that way about it but now it is a nostalgia trip so I can appreciate it more. I loved Duke right away, still do. Abacab was puzzling, now I listen to it and just iike ATTW3 I find they were not in their strongest songwriting form, the difference is that Abacab has a lot more energy and an element of novelty. I found the first side of the Mama album superb and still feel that way.
I had and have nothing good to say about IT, I still find it tasteless.
WCD has 3-4 songs I liked very much and imo stood the test of time but to me it sounds a lot like a tired, contractual obligation record. Well established, wealthy band, with decades of career, concerts and solo records under their belt and the rest is business as usual....I find it quite normal I must say, I don't think many artists can remain fresh forever. I used to like CAS but I like it always less and less.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 15th, 2017, 09:21am »

on Oct 15th, 2017, 08:20am, Fabrizio wrote:
WCD has 3-4 songs I liked very much and imo stood the test of time but to me it sounds a lot like a tired, contractual obligation record. Well established, wealthy band, with decades of career, concerts and solo records under their belt and the rest is business as usual....I find it quite normal I must say, I don't think many artists can remain fresh forever.


That's pretty much how I feel about IT, it seems like an album they felt obliged to produce but nothing more than that. All three brought a lot fresher ideas into their respective solo and side projects, on IT I can hear them being in each other's way if you want - they all had to step back in compromise. IT is the only album Genesis seemed to be less than the sum of their parts.

On the other hand, WCD always sounds to me a lot fresher and with more passion, it seems they had in mind this might be their final album and it was the first after a quite long pause, I can hear them being excited in doing it.
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 15th, 2017, 09:40am »

on Oct 15th, 2017, 09:21am, Schrottrocker wrote:
That's pretty much how I feel about IT, it seems like an album they felt obliged to produce but nothing more than that. All three brought a lot fresher ideas into their respective solo and side projects, on IT I can hear them being in each other's way if you want - they all had to step back in compromise. IT is the only album Genesis seemed to be less than the sum of their parts.

On the other hand, WCD always sounds to me a lot fresher and with more passion, it seems they had in mind this might be their final album and it was the first after a quite long pause, I can hear them being excited in doing it.

I should probably say that a few exceptions aside I am not a major fan of the music produced around 87-88, personally I find it an awful period in music and almost every major artist paid tribute and a price to music industry around that period. IT was the album that consolidated them as a major act, it spawned I don't know how many hit singles and it was still unclear whether that was going to be the case after Genesis which did more than Ok of course but didn't achieve the commercial peaks of IT. Things had changed radically after that and between solo records, tv shows, solo tours and polo, after quite a number of years it was time to go back into the studio again. WCD is imo lyricswise the worst Genesis record ever, some lyrics are downright irritating, it's hard for me to feel any passion there and again 3-4 song imo are classics and imo vastly superior to anything on IT but the rest is truly forgettable.
Then of course I respect if someone finds stuff like I can't dance or way of the world amazing but I truly cannot share it and I think, I know Genesis can do better, only I put it in perspective as I said before. It is their last record, with this line up anyway, after decades of good music. It is imo understandable.
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