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xx The "Genesis recharge" effect
« Thread started on: Aug 9th, 2017, 04:17am »

Now obviously this is true for all bands, but for Genesis it's specifically brilliant because they are by far my favourite group and the one that's had the most important impact on my life.

With Genesis, one thing that I cannot resist doing now is deliberately not listening to the music sometimes for months on end, apart from the odd track, or bits of some tracks. I find that when I listen to them often, their music starts to sound less magical, because I've heard their songs so many times now. But when I deliberately refuse to listen to their music for a long time, and then I come back to it, suddenly their music sounds incredible - I mean, it already does sound incredible, but regular breaks enhances the musical quality for me by a long shot. The songs go from "I love this song but I've heard it so many times." to "Holy crap, this song is so brilliant."

I'm sure that some of you guys do this as well, I was just wondering what you think of this method? Perhaps you disagree?
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 06:38am »

I think this is true, but it happens to me out of necessity rather than choice. Sometimes I listen to other music but when I return to Genesis I always feel like I've got back home.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 07:16am »

on Aug 9th, 2017, 06:38am, WutheringNights76 wrote:
I think this is true, but it happens to me out of necessity rather than choice. Sometimes I listen to other music but when I return to Genesis I always feel like I've got back home.

Yeah, that's how I feel too. Like listening to music that welcomes you back. Also, when I take a big break from Genesis and hear their music I tend to appreciate its existence a lot more. I forget just how good some songs are and so when I hear them after a few months, it's like rediscovering them. I hear things I didn't hear before. I understand new things about their songs. The same "recharge" effect happens with my other favourite bands, but with Genesis it's a really special experience, one that makes the world feel brighter, and soothes the pains from the battles I'm fighting in my life right now (for example, my mother's disability and illness). Speaking of Mum, we've now installed a stairlift so she's now back to sleeping upstairs. So her life has improved because of this. smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 10:48am »

Excellent news about the stairlift, which, ironically, runs on rechargeable batteries! grin
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xx Re: The "Genesis recharge" effect
« Reply #4 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 2:34pm »

i haven't listened to genesis in quite a long time, and that's why i'm very keen on doing it again, as nosonofvine says. i'll go on holiday to a rather gloomy place that i didn't choose, so genesis music will cheer me up.

i'm not sure if i'll listen to the albums in direct or inverse chronological order, if i'll include the albums 'from genesis to revelation' and 'calling all stations' and/or the extra tracks...
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 11th, 2017, 03:16am »

Well, there is a reason they say "familiarity breeds contempt". I personally find this to be the case with any music I like.
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 11th, 2017, 10:58am »

I've been certainly guilty in the past of overlistening to some Genesis albums. Trick and SEbtP for instance: It got to the point where I knew the chords, the lyrics, the basslines, the drums fills, the arrangements and so on.
I got so deep into the music it became harder for me to enjoy it.
I can't truly say that I got fed up with them but I had to take some time. Today, when I approach those albums I make sure the conditions are right, less listenings but more meaningful: the right setting, I have time, I'm in the mood, even the weather.....I want to make sure I can enjoy them the way they deserve.
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 14th, 2017, 3:42pm »

on Aug 11th, 2017, 10:58am, Fabrizio wrote:
Today, when I approach those albums I make sure the conditions are right, less listenings but more meaningful: the right setting, I have time, I'm in the mood, even the weather.....I want to make sure I can enjoy them the way they deserve.


And I thought I was alone when it came to picking albums based on weather and setting.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 15th, 2017, 01:08am »

I agree and this is a great idea. I personally am so used to all of the catalogue, that the love I have for some songs, that I have had for many years is diminished somewhat. I think the economic term for it is marginal utility. So sometimes, I dance around the band's output, like listening to Steve's latest album - which is truly excellent by the way - and maybe a bit of M&TM or Gabe, or other music altogether, and give the band's output a break for 3-4 months or so. I come back to Duke, or Nursery Cryme, or We Can't Dance and BAM!!!! It just hits you how incredible their music is, how it keeps giving and how amazing a band they were. I put the recharge effect to good use with the Genesis catalogue, it keeps things fresh, and keeps me interested in their music, especially from a compositional perspective. smiley
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 27th, 2017, 11:00pm »

on Aug 9th, 2017, 04:17am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
........With Genesis, one thing that I cannot resist doing now is deliberately not listening to the music sometimes for months on end, apart from the odd track, or bits of some tracks. I find that when I listen to them often, their music starts to sound less magical, because I've heard their songs so many times now. But when I deliberately refuse to listen to their music for a long time, and then I come back to it, suddenly their music sounds incredible - I mean, it already does sound incredible, but regular breaks enhances the musical quality for me by a long shot. The songs go from "I love this song but I've heard it so many times." to "Holy crap, this song is so brilliant."

I'm sure that some of you guys do this as well, I was just wondering what you think of this method? Perhaps you disagree?



I would say I agree. But for me it's more the surround remixes really. I usually don't go more than a couple weeks at most without listening to something Genesis. But the 5.1 remixes I will pretty regularly go several months not listening to one of them. And yes, once I pop in one of those albums, sit in the right spot and listen, I am taken aback at how amazing they sound-and I spend an hour truly enjoying myself!

This is more the case for me with movies, though than music. I'm a big movie person so I'll often see the likes of the Star Wars saga or all of Lord of the Rings etc. at least twice in a year, or more even. But there are times where it's been so long, I've forgotten how enjoyable they are. This recently happened to me with the Pirates of the Carribbean movies, as it had been over two years since I've seen any of those. So I agree that sort of "recharge effect" definitely exists in order to kind of bring back the magic of a film or album.
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