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xx Rank the shortest and longest tracks on each album
« Thread started on: Apr 1st, 2017, 5:57pm »

Shortest:

Scenes From A Night's Dream
Dusk
Never A Time
A Trick Of The Tail
For Absent Friends
Taking It All Too Hard
Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers...
Invisible Touch
Ravine
Horizons
Guide Vocal
Shipwrecked
Aisle Of Plenty
A Place To Call My Own
Who Dunnit?

Longest:

The Musical Box
One For The Vine
Supper's Ready
Domino
Duke's Travels
In The Cage
One Man's Fool
The Knife
Burning Rope
Ripples...
Fading Lights
The Battle Of Epping Forest
Dodo/Lurker
Mama
The Serpent

Note: In The Cage is longer than The Colony Of Slippermen by a fraction of a second.
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xx Re: Rank the shortest and longest tracks on each a
« Reply #1 on: Apr 1st, 2017, 11:25pm »

Shortest

1. Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers
2. A Trick Of The Tail
3. Taking It All Too Hard
4. Invisible Touch
5. Never A Time
6. Scenes From A Night's Dream
7. For Absent Friends
8. Dusk
9. Guide Vocal
10. Ravine
11. Aisle Of Plenty
12. Horizons
13. Shipwrecked
14. A Place To Call My Own
15. Who Dunnit?

*1 is great (a least when its paired with "...In That Quiet Earth")
*2-6 are good
*7-12 are okay (these don't work as well as individual songs, except for 7 & 8)
*13-14 are bland
*15, well, do I even need to say?

Longest

1. Supper's Ready
2. In The Cage
3. The Musical Box
4. One For The Vine
5. Ripples
6. Dodo/Lurker
7. Duke's Travels
8. Mama
9. Domino
10. Fading Lights
11. The Knife
12. Burning Rope
13. The Battle Of Epping Forest
14. One Man's Fool
15. The Serpent

*1-10 are great
*11-12 are good
*13-14 are okay
*15 is bland
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 2nd, 2017, 06:32am »

it's funny, the shortest track from 'a trick of the tail' is longer than the longest track from 'revelation'.

it would be interesting to make a statistical study on the lengths of genesis songs. not only the average length of every album, but also the variance.

'foxtrot' includes supper's ready -a 23 minute suite- and horizons -a brief interlude-. therefore, 'foxtrot' would surely have the highest variance.

i'll rank the shortest and longest tracks later.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 2nd, 2017, 10:41am »

on Apr 2nd, 2017, 06:32am, Kerry95 wrote:
it's funny, the shortest track from 'a trick of the tail' is longer than the longest track from 'revelation'.

Actually, A Trick Of The Tail is 4:35. The Serpent is 4:39. Then again, it might depend upon the specific versions of these songs. My version of TS is slightly longer than ATOTT.

on Apr 2nd, 2017, 06:32am, Kerry95 wrote:
'foxtrot' includes supper's ready -a 23 minute suite- and horizons -a brief interlude-. therefore, 'foxtrot' would surely have the highest variance.

The average length of a track on Foxtrot is 8:30.

Interestingly, the track Get 'Em Out By Friday is just slightly longer than that.

So not only does that album have a very long longest song and a very short shortest song, but it also has a track that represents the average track length for that album.

By the way, I just worked out that the average length of a Genesis song is about 5:18 (more or less).
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 3rd, 2017, 08:47am »

This is surprisingly difficult. I managed to rank the shortest tracks but couldn't decide how to rank the longest ones.

Shortest:
Dusk
Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers...
A Trick Of The Tail
Aisle Of Plenty
Horizons
Who Dunnit?
Scenes From A Night's Dream
Never A Time
Shipwrecked
Taking It All Too Hard
Ravine
For Absent Friends
Invisible Touch
Guide Vocal
A Place To Call My Own

BTW, I believe the longest track on GENESIS would actually be "Mama," since the two parts of "Home By The Sea" are listed & indexed as separate tracks, without an overall "suite" title. "Domino," on the other hand, has an overall title and is indexed as a single track -- similar to "Supper's Ready."
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 3rd, 2017, 10:36am »

on Apr 3rd, 2017, 08:47am, onetwothree wrote:
BTW, I believe the longest track on GENESIS would actually be "Mama," since the two parts of "Home By The Sea" are listed & indexed as separate tracks, without an overall "suite" title. "Domino," on the other hand, has an overall title and is indexed as a single track -- similar to "Supper's Ready."

Good point. Amended my list.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 3rd, 2017, 11:36am »

Shortest:
Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers...
Guide Vocal
Taking It All Too Hard
Invisible Touch
Scenes From A Night's Dream
Horizons
Shipwrecked
Who Dunnit?
For Absent Friends
Ravine
Aisle Of Plenty
A Trick Of The Tail
Dusk
Never A Time
A Place To Call My Own

Longest:
Supper's Ready
Duke's Travels
In The Cage
Ripples...
Mama
The Knife
The Musical Box
Fading Lights
Dodo/Lurker
Domino
Burning Rope
One For The Vine
One Man's Fool
The Battle Of Epping Forest
The Serpent
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 4th, 2017, 03:42am »

on Apr 1st, 2017, 5:57pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Note: In The Cage is longer than The Colony Of Slippermen by a fraction of a second.


Wow. I am lost for words.
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 4th, 2017, 06:11am »

on Apr 4th, 2017, 03:42am, Backdrifter wrote:
Wow. I am lost for words.

Why? huh
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 4th, 2017, 06:25am »

on Apr 1st, 2017, 5:57pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Note: In The Cage is longer than The Colony Of Slippermen by a fraction of a second.

As far as I'm concerned, the attention to detail is appreciated.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 4th, 2017, 07:32am »

It wasn't intended as a negative comment. I was expressing my great surprise that someone could have that level of detail about song times.

I just looked at the Wikipedia tracklisting which has Cage as 1 second longer but they are of course not going to list tenths or hundredths of a second.
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 4th, 2017, 3:27pm »

on Apr 4th, 2017, 07:32am, Backdrifter wrote:
It wasn't intended as a negative comment. I was expressing my great surprise that someone could have that level of detail about song times.

I just looked at the Wikipedia tracklisting which has Cage as 1 second longer but they are of course not going to list tenths or hundredths of a second.

I used iTunes to determine which one is longer. If you click on a song's info you can view it in more detail. In my Library on the main album view, both were listed as 8:13, but ITC was listed as being slightly longer on its info page.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 25th, 2017, 10:37am »

on Apr 3rd, 2017, 08:47am, onetwothree wrote:
This is surprisingly difficult. I managed to rank the shortest tracks but couldn't decide how to rank the longest ones.

OK, I'm trying to rank the longest ones now:

Supper's Ready
Duke's Travels
Dodo/Lurker
Domino
Mama
The Musical Box
One Man's Fool
Ripples
In The Cage
The Knife
One For The Vine
Fading Lights
The Serpent
Burning Rope
The Battle Of Epping Forest

I note that most of these are not my favorite on their respective albums, or likely to show up in a Genesis top 20 if I ever did one. On the other hand, none are my least favorite on their respective albums either.
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 2:39pm »

This was tougher than I expected...

Shortest:
  1. Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers - 10
  2. Dusk - 9
  3. A Trick Of The Tail - 9
  4. Horizons - 9
  5. Aisle Of Plenty - 9
  6. Ravine - 9
  7. Scenes From A Night's Dream - 8
  8. Guide Vocal - 8
  9. For Absent Friends - 8
  10. A Place To Call My Own - 7
  11. Never A Time - 5
  12. Taking It All Too Hard - 5
  13. Shipwrecked - 3
  14. Who Dunnit? - 2
  15. Invisible Touch - 2
Longest:
  1. Supper's Ready - 10+
  2. The Musical Box - 10
  3. Ripples - 10
  4. The Knife - 10
  5. In The Cage - 10
  6. One For The Vine - 10
  7. The Battle Of Epping Forest - 9
  8. Burning Rope - 8
  9. Duke's Travels - 8
  10. Mama - 8
  11. Domino - 8
  12. Dodo/Lurker - 8
  13. Fading Lights - 7
  14. The Serpent - 7
  15. One Man's Fool - 4
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 22nd, 2017, 4:30pm »

Shortest:

1. A Trick Of The Tail
2. Taking It All Too Hard
3. Shipwrecked
4. Scenes From A Night's Dream
5. Dusk
6. Guide Vocal
7. Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers...
8. For Absent Friends
9. Invisible Touch
10. Whodunnit?
11. Horizons
12, Aisle Of Plenty
13. Ravine
14. Never A Time
15. A Place To Call My Own

Longest:

1. Supper's Ready
2. Dodo/Lurker
3. Mama
4. Fading Lights
5. The Battle Of Epping Forest
6. Domino
7. The Musical Box
8. Ripples
9. One For The Vine
10. In The Cage
11. Burning Rope
12. Duke's Travels
13. The Knife
14. One Man's Fool
15. The Serpent
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