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« Reply #60 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 09:50am »

Camel’s “Raindance” IS a classic. That and “Breathless” are my fave Camel albums
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« Reply #61 on: Nov 13th, 2017, 11:27am »

on Oct 25th, 2014, 12:24pm, MitchByTheSea wrote:
The Lady Lies in particular is appallingly naff lyrically and musically. And the cover's they're worsed aswell.

God, yes!
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« Reply #62 on: Nov 14th, 2017, 08:57am »

ATTWT is not a classic. IMO it's not even close. The only appreciation I have for the album is the 2007 remix of FYFM and the Archive 2 live versions of DITML and BR.
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« Reply #63 on: Nov 14th, 2017, 09:41am »

You can always debate what is meant by 'classic' but I'd say no, it's not. Oddly enough though, two of my absolute favourite Genesis tracks are on it: Down & Out, and Many Too Many. Then again, two of my most disliked ones are as well - Snowbound and Scenes. PC has said Banks sometimes gave him awkward words to sing such as undinal, bread-bin and double-glazing. How could he have not cringed having to sing "Eating all kinds of food so close to bedtime" and "Poor little Nemo"? That's him and Banks isn't it - he may have written them himself! Some of the lyrics on this album sound like rejects from a book of really naff stories. The tweeness that started on RA&B and carried through to Mouse's Night is in full force on ATTWT.

Undertow is a good one, together with FYFM, D&O and MTM these are the only 4 tracks I can still listen to. Motherlode is okay, I mainly have fond memories of it opening the two Duke Tour gigs I went to - my first ever Genesis shows. But I don't listen to it now.
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« Reply #64 on: Nov 14th, 2017, 10:36am »

on Nov 14th, 2017, 09:41am, Backdrifter wrote:
Undertow is a good one, together with FYFM, D&O and MTM these are the only 4 tracks I can still listen to. Motherlode is okay .

I would add Burning Rope to that list but almost half of the album ranges from quite to very weak, too much to be considered a classic.
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« Reply #65 on: Nov 14th, 2017, 4:38pm »

on Nov 14th, 2017, 09:41am, Backdrifter wrote:
two of my most disliked ones are as well - Snowbound and Scenes.


I’ve a real soft spot for ‘Snowbound’. And I LOVE ‘Scenes...’. One of my favourites on “ATTWT”. It belongs in a unique little club of prog-rock child-like ‘lullaby’ songs, along with Yes’s ‘Circus of Heaven’ and ‘Plastic Dreamer’ by It Bites.
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« Reply #66 on: Nov 14th, 2017, 5:03pm »

on Nov 14th, 2017, 09:41am, Backdrifter wrote:
You can always debate what is meant by 'classic' but I'd say no, it's not. Oddly enough though, two of my absolute favourite Genesis tracks are on it: Down & Out, and Many Too Many. Then again, two of my most disliked ones are as well - Snowbound and Scenes. PC has said Banks sometimes gave him awkward words to sing such as undinal, bread-bin and double-glazing. How could he have not cringed having to sing "Eating all kinds of food so close to bedtime" and "Poor little Nemo"? That's him and Banks isn't it - he may have written them himself! Some of the lyrics on this album sound like rejects from a book of really naff stories. The tweeness that started on RA&B and carried through to Mouse's Night is in full force on ATTWT.

Undertow is a good one, together with FYFM, D&O and MTM these are the only 4 tracks I can still listen to. Motherlode is okay, I mainly have fond memories of it opening the two Duke Tour gigs I went to - my first ever Genesis shows. But I don't listen to it now.


I'm pretty sure that Scenes... lyrics are completely Phil's. Sounds like he's trying to imitate Genesis-y lyrics. What could have been if he never got divorced!
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« Reply #67 on: Nov 15th, 2017, 06:36am »

on Nov 14th, 2017, 4:38pm, ImperialSquonk wrote:
I’ve a real soft spot for ‘Snowbound’. And I LOVE ‘Scenes...’. One of my favourites on “ATTWT”. It belongs in a unique little club of prog-rock child-like ‘lullaby’ songs, along with Yes’s ‘Circus of Heaven’ and ‘Plastic Dreamer’ by It Bites.

There's a definite pattern here. I can't stand those songs either!
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