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xx Support or no support, that is the question.
« Thread started on: Apr 22nd, 2015, 09:56am »

The last two gigs I have been to, Steven Wilson and Simple Minds, there have been no support artists, just full sets from the headline artists. Steven Wilson played for the full two hours, and Simple Minds played two hour long sets with a ten minute break. This got me wondering if I actually preferred this or not. I, after all, pay to see the head-liner, surely a full evening of just their music is what I want to pay for. Both gigs were amazing. Many supports are just a warm up for the main performers anyway and are often a disappointment. Yet it can also be a way of introducing me to some new acts I may never have heard of before. But I cannot remember hardly any that made an impact on me. Foreign Slippers who supported Duke Special was the last artist to make an impression. Other than that cannot even remember most of their names. So what would you prefer? A full night of music from the artist you went to see, or a support that introduces you to some new artist and a shorter set from the main band?
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xx Re: Support or no support, that is the question.
« Reply #1 on: Apr 22nd, 2015, 10:59am »

It probably depends on:
(a) the age & stamina of the main act. Could they play a longer set?
(b) who the support act is.
Last year when I saw Graham Parker & the Rumour the support act was Squeeze’s Glenn Tilbrook, so no complaints there! But overall, the forgettable support acts I’ve seen outnumber the rest by far.
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xx Re: Support or no support, that is the question.
« Reply #2 on: Apr 23rd, 2015, 07:04am »

Complex question! smiley

Have the headline act chosen the support act because: a/ they're cheap? or b/ they aren't going to be much competition? First 2 times I saw the Moody Blues, the support was: 1979 - Jimmy Spheeris (RIP), 1984 - Pheonix (2 lads with backing tapes) Both were awful. All the other times I saw them, no support act, just more of them. Result!

OR, have the headline act chosen someone they think worth exposure? I remember Chris De Burgh having a band called Immaculate Fools in the mid-80's who were OK. Steve Hackett had Mae McKenna in 1988, I bought her next 2 albums, best support act I've seen. his 3 GR gigs has Mostly autumn and Alan Reed, both very good, and Anne Marie Helder, who seemed to go down quite well, but personally, I didn't like her. That said, Steve tends to do 2 hours + anyway, so you're getting both a support AND 2 hours +. Can't be bad.
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xx Re: Support or no support, that is the question.
« Reply #3 on: Apr 23rd, 2015, 08:50am »

It depends on the band. If they are relatively new with not much of a back catalogue,it would be a good idea to have a support band. If they've been at it a while, it's up to them, whether they want to play all the time or if they want to support an up and coming band
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xx Re: Support or no support, that is the question.
« Reply #4 on: May 8th, 2015, 07:28am »

on Apr 22nd, 2015, 09:56am, proginrev wrote:
.... full sets from the headline artists.... the full two hours.... a full evening of just their music.... A full night of music from the artist you went to see, or a support that introduces you to some new artist and a shorter set from the main band?

That's a lot of "fulls." wink

Frankly, two hours is not a "full" show for me, especially since I'm often spending 2-3 hours getting to and from the show. If the headline act is going to play for two hours or less, I'd expect a support act.

Of course, I'd prefer to see a show where the main artist plays for THREE hours and then some. Recent concerts by Dave Matthews, Springsteen, and Steely Dan come to mind. cool (Hmm, maybe it's an American thing. wink )
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xx Re: Support or no support, that is the question.
« Reply #5 on: May 8th, 2015, 09:50am »

on May 8th, 2015, 07:28am, Dust wrote:
That's a lot of "fulls." wink

Frankly, two hours is not a "full" show for me, especially since I'm often spending 2-3 hours getting to and from the show. If the headline act is going to play for two hours or less, I'd expect a support act.

Of course, I'd prefer to see a show where the main artist plays for THREE hours and then some. Recent concerts by Dave Matthews, Springsteen, and Steely Dan come to mind. cool (Hmm, maybe it's an American thing. wink )


Interesting. Three hours is what I'd call over-length. Never seen any single band/artist perform so long except for cover bands. The rule is 2 hours or one and a half hour, sometimes even just 1 hour. Not that I'd mind to see Steely Dan live for 3 hours and more wink I just wouldn't expect it. When I saw Genesis in 2007, the show went for ~2 hours plus starting 30min. late; my train ride to München took some 5 hours to get there and again some 5 hours to get back, add about 2 hours before the show started and after it ended respectively, in short: I spent half a day and half a night for a full 2-hour live show.

Btw, starting late is something I find particularly annoying. You're there being excited for the show to start and then you're waiting, and you're waiting, and you're waiting...*yawn*... tongue

But on topic: I don't mind whether there's a support act or not as long as the support band doesn't suck completely. I remember seeing Blackmore's Night with Mostly Autumn as support, they were kind of the perfect support: they were good but not better than the main act, their music had a fitting mood for the night, they pretty much prepared the perfect ground for Blackmore's Night's show.
On the other hand there's those support bands who outshine the main act: way back when I went to see The Seer their support was Fiddler's Green and yes, Fiddler's Green stole the show. They were awesome while The Seer were a let-down.
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xx Re: Support or no support, that is the question.
« Reply #6 on: May 8th, 2015, 3:04pm »

The Flower Kings are known for 3-hour gigs. So is Neal Morse (solo), as well as Transatlantic.

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« Reply #7 on: May 9th, 2015, 4:26pm »

I have no real opinon on the matter of support acts, because I have not been to many concerts. But I heard that Daryl as a solo performer will be the support act for Mike and the Mechanics in the US this year. Sounds like a first class support act to me!
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 12th, 2015, 07:17am »

When I was a lot younger, support acts were very important to me. Some stand out ones were: Dan Reed Network, who blew Bon Jovi away on the New Jersey tour; Richard Marx was fantastic supporting the wonderful Stevie Nicks around 1990; Galactic Cowboys were amazing in support of King's X in 1989 (one of the best gigs I ever went to cool).

But these days I'm not so bothered. I'd rather have a beer before the main act, as I don't get to do that often enough anymore....
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 12th, 2015, 12:53pm »

I like opening acts. While it is true that many end up being forgettable, it is a great way to get introduced to someone new. I first heard Indigo Girls when they opened for REM. I first heard Lone Justice (which led me to follow Maria McKee) opening for U2. I loved Brian Kennedy opening for Suzanne Vega.
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