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xx ATOTT Tour - Audience Reaction to Phil
« Thread started on: Jun 16th, 2017, 3:03pm »

For those of you lucky enough to have seen the Trick of the Tail tour, how did the audience respond to the new lineup? To your recollection, was there any backlash? Any visibly displeased hardcore Gabriel fans? The band often speak fondly of the positive audience response to those shows, but were there any notable exceptions?
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 17th, 2017, 11:07am »

I managed to get to three dates on the UK tour (although it's debatable whether five nights at Hammersmith and three provincial dates a month later actually constituted a tour as such) and the reaction was pretty ecstatic at all of them. There was no question of any backlash, all that Pete-era v Phil-era divisiveness is something that only came much later. I'm sure there were some there who felt things would never be quite as good again without Pete - and I'd include myself in that number - but it was a case of accepting that things had changed and looking to the future, everyone just wanted to see the band continue and flourish and the fact that they had managed to recruit a replacement from within made it a lot easier to accept the transition.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 18th, 2017, 3:19pm »

The great thing about that tour was that Bill Bruford was going to join the band and play drums. That's what I remember.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 19th, 2017, 09:05am »

By the time the band started the "Trick" tour, fans had pretty much become used to the idea that Peter was no longer with them. It seemed to be mainly curiosity about how the shows were going to be performed and how Phil would cope as frontman. I never came across any specific negativity towards Phil...at that point anyway. grin
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 19th, 2017, 12:47pm »

I just wanted to add...

You have to realize that there would have been no expectations or presumptions regarding what directions Genesis and Gabriel eventually would have taken down the road. They were just a band that lost their lead singer. I'm sure lots of fans who had been following them earlier would have been disappointed when they found out that Peter had left. But when ATOTT was released and they started to tour the general vibe was fairly positive. Also remember that Peter had yet to release anything as a solo artist; he had kind of temporarily faded into the background after he left the band and the rest went off to release ATOTT. That album was fairly well received by fans, and they had a couple of months to settle into Phil being the lead vocalist before the tour began.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 20th, 2017, 5:51pm »

I wonder if ATOTT got any reviews that whined over "commercial sellout" grin
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 21st, 2017, 12:44pm »

on Jun 19th, 2017, 12:47pm, HENRY wrote:
I just wanted to add...

You have to realize that there would have been no expectations or presumptions regarding what directions Genesis and Gabriel eventually would have taken down the road. They were just a band that lost their lead singer. I'm sure lots of fans who had been following them earlier would have been disappointed when they found out that Peter had left. But when ATOTT was released and they started to tour the general vibe was fairly positive. Also remember that Peter had yet to release anything as a solo artist; he had kind of temporarily faded into the background after he left the band and the rest went off to release ATOTT. That album was fairly well received by fans, and they had a couple of months to settle into Phil being the lead vocalist before the tour began.

That's what I thought. I only created this thread because of all the comments and reviews I've read from people acting as though they were around back then claiming that Peter's departure was "when it all went wrong". I was curious as to whether there actually was a section of the fanbase who felt this way at the time (which would've been odd considering the lack of stylistic difference between the five and four-man eras).
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xx Re: ATOTT Tour - Audience Reaction to Phil
« Reply #7 on: Jun 24th, 2017, 11:04am »

on Jun 21st, 2017, 12:44pm, StarOfSirius wrote:
I only created this thread because of all the comments and reviews I've read from people acting as though they were around back then claiming that Peter's departure was "when it all went wrong".

Back in 1980 the guy who introduced me to Genesis by lending me Foxtrot, did so by telling me straight that the band was over because the lead singer had left and things were never going to be the same.
By the time I purchased Trick, I realized things weren't exactly like that but he and others I knew remained adamant. It's funny though, today we have the internet and we can youtube just about anything but I remember him and others telling me that back then, aprox.74-75. in Italy, there were ony a coupe of monthly music magazines, some fans, not all, had heard that Phil was going to replace Peter and having only For absent Friend and More Fool Me as a reference, were justifiably terrified.
Some others and it seems impossible to comprehend now, literally found out when they bought the record.
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