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« Reply #585 on: May 27th, 2007, 2:23pm »

Carl, I'm no Flower Kings expert and they are by no means my second fav band wink, but I can assure you that you will not be disappointed with "Meet The Flower Kings" It's a magic dvd.

So there you have it, I bought that dvd before a TFK addict wink cheesy grin
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« Reply #586 on: May 27th, 2007, 3:37pm »

on May 27th, 2007, 2:23pm, demolition man wrote:
Carl, I'm no Flower Kings expert and they are by no means my second fav band wink, but I can assure you that you will not be disappointed with "Meet The Flower Kings" It's a magic dvd.

So there you have it, I bought that dvd before a TFK addict wink cheesy grin


Go on, rub it in! grin
My excuse is we didn't own a dvd player until Xmas just gone, when I actually bought one for my wife. We're almost in the 21st century now - amazing! cheesy

Go on then Colin, I think I know your fave band grin but who is your second fave? shocked
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« Reply #587 on: May 27th, 2007, 3:40pm »

Camel cool at the moment smiley
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« Reply #588 on: May 27th, 2007, 3:53pm »

btw Carl, I meant to say that my favourite The Flowewr Kings album reamins Retropolis.

Awesome work actually. "The Judas Kiss" is top drawer stuff. I wish more albums were made this way wink
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« Reply #589 on: May 27th, 2007, 3:54pm »

on May 27th, 2007, 3:40pm, demolition man wrote:
Camel cool at the moment smiley


Good choice! cheesy
I think, for me, after Genesis and TFK, it is probably, at the moment, Steve Hackett. (But Rush and Yes are close behind.)
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« Reply #590 on: May 27th, 2007, 3:57pm »

[quote author=demolition man link=board=obands&num=1172705095&start=589#39 date=1180299208]btw Carl, I meant to say that my favourite The Flowewr Kings album reamins Retropolis.

Awesome work actually. "The Judas Kiss" is top drawer stuff. I wish more albums were made this way wink[/quote]

Agreed! 'The Judas Kiss' is amazing. Have you got, or have you heard 'Go West Judas' from Back In The World Of Adventures?
That's another great track, almost along the same lines.

What's your favourite Camel? (And don't say dromedary!) grin
Mine is probably Moonmadness.
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« Reply #591 on: May 28th, 2007, 4:48pm »

Oh well, it's back to work tomorrow. But at least it's a short week, and by the weekend, I should have 'Meet The Flower Kings' in my eager hands. (And in the dvd player, ready for action!)
It will be the first time I have seen Zoltan Csorz 'live', so to speak, that is something else I am looking forward to. (Forget the elixir of eternal youth, good music keeps you young, mentally anyway!)
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« Reply #592 on: May 28th, 2007, 5:56pm »

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Oh well, it's back to work tomorrow.

Same for me......then I'm off Wednesday and Thursday looking after the children (which is much harder than being at work!!).


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But at least it's a short week, and by the weekend, I should have 'Meet The Flower Kings' in my eager hands. (And in the dvd player, ready for action!)

You're gonna love it!!


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It will be the first time I have seen Zoltan Csorz 'live', so to speak, that is something else I am looking forward to. (Forget the elixir of eternal youth, good music keeps you young, mentally anyway!)

Zoltan is an absolute drum monster. You will be amazed at how great he is, especially in the little documentary bits in between the songs when he's in the recording studio.

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« Reply #593 on: May 28th, 2007, 6:05pm »

on May 27th, 2007, 10:11am, Chessman wrote:
TFK really are my second favourite band of all time, just behind Genesis.
(And I mean just as well. Not much in it to be honest.) smiley

It's a loyalty thing isn't it Carl?

I mean, The Flower Kings have been creeping up my top 10 chart for the past 8 years but the fact is that I've listened to them much more than any other band for the past 5 years, easily.

I always tend to say that my top 3 bands are Genesis, The Beatles and Steely Dan with TFK at number 4 but it's really loyalty to my top 3 that just keeps TFK out.

Let's face it, if you compare the TFK albums to post-77 Genesis albums, well, there is no comparison. Furthermore, I'd say that the best of TFK compares very favourably with the best of Genesis.

I have no trouble saying that I now prefer TFK to other bands that I grew up with such as Yes, Camel and Rush (sorry Nikki), but I just can't bring myself to say that I prefer them to Genesis because Genesis really did change my life in my mid-teens and that's heavy stuff.

I think I need a lie down now!!

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« Reply #594 on: May 29th, 2007, 5:25pm »

on May 28th, 2007, 6:05pm, Nov wrote:
It's a loyalty thing isn't it Carl?

I mean, The Flower Kings have been creeping up my top 10 chart for the past 8 years but the fact is that I've listened to them much more than any other band for the past 5 years, easily.

I always tend to say that my top 3 bands are Genesis, The Beatles and Steely Dan with TFK at number 4 but it's really loyalty to my top 3 that just keeps TFK out.

Let's face it, if you compare the TFK albums to post-77 Genesis albums, well, there is no comparison. Furthermore, I'd say that the best of TFK compares very favourably with the best of Genesis.

I have no trouble saying that I now prefer TFK to other bands that I grew up with such as Yes, Camel and Rush (sorry Nikki), but I just can't bring myself to say that I prefer them to Genesis because Genesis really did change my life in my mid-teens and that's heavy stuff.

I think I need a lie down now!!

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Interesting point you raise there Nov. It could be a loyalty thing, but I'm not sure if it is. As you say yourself, Genesis really did change my life too. I couldn't believe they were so good, yet so different to everything else I was listening to. I had seen pics of them in action, and thought they looked very theatrical, of course, but when I heard them I thought wow! The music works either with or without the theatrics.
They became my favourite 'headphone' band, along with 10cc, because there was so much going on, such as all the little vocal performances in songs such as 'Harold The Barrel' (still one of my fave Genesis songs!) and 'Fountain Of Salmacis'.
Anyway, the effect on me has never been reproduced by any other band, even those I think very highly of.
Now, in TFK's case, it was more a gradual creeping up on me than an instant 'wow' thing. I knew they were good, straight from the off, but the more I listened, the more I picked up things I had missed on the first few listens.
To be honest, I try not to listen to them any more than other bands I like, as I think that variety is very important. But they really do blow away all the other modern bands I like, and that's not being unkind to those - there are some excellent bands I like thesedays.
But a comparison with Genesis is practically impossible. I suspect that, in the end, the two bands will tie for the number one spot, and I will be happy to leave it at that.
TFK have one advantage, however, they are far more consistent. As you say, their albums are superior to any post '77 Genesis albums really. But their best against the best of Genesis? Hmm, one of the few times I am happy to sit on the fence.
Phew! Now I need a cup of tea first, then a lie down! grin
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« Reply #595 on: May 29th, 2007, 5:32pm »

or a game of chess perhaps? rolleyes

Do you play on-line Carl?
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« Reply #596 on: May 29th, 2007, 6:00pm »

on May 29th, 2007, 5:32pm, demolition man wrote:
or a game of chess perhaps? rolleyes

Do you play on-line Carl?


Evening, Colin!

I used to play online. On msn games, and a couple of other sites, including the ICC site, for which there is a yearly fee. The compensation for that is that a lot of the world's top grandmasters play on it too. One you may have heard of - our very own Nigel Short.
Of course, I have played him a number of times, and he is yet to beat me!






Ok, ok, only kidding. Sat a table away from him once at a tournament, (in the canteen, actually) but never played him. He is in a different class to me. And he does play on the ICC site, as does Vishy Anand, the amazing Indian who has played for the world title, and is in the top three of four in the world. And no, before you ask...I haven't!!! grin

Out of interest, I am currently playing Kaipa - Notes From The Past. It really is a great album!
And then it's off to bed. Work tomorrow unfortunately. Hope the weather is better in the morning than it was this morning. (Although it did clear up later, nice and sunny in fact!)
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« Reply #597 on: May 29th, 2007, 6:03pm »

check cool mate. I like a game of chess with my brother-in-law. Never played on line though.

now there's a thought smiley
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« Reply #598 on: May 29th, 2007, 6:09pm »

on May 29th, 2007, 6:03pm, demolition man wrote:
check cool mate. I like a game of chess with my brother-in-law. Never played on line though.

now there's a thought smiley


Try it! It's fun and there's no pressure on you. You can sit with a cup of tea, or a coffee (or something stronger!) and just enjoy the game. Some very good players online, and some mediocre, such as me!

And here's another thought - why not combine two interests and try to devise a chess set that is made up of musical heroes? So the pieces could be figurines of, say, Manfred Mann, Roine Stolt, Steve Hackett, Andy Latimer, Jon Anderson etc etc. Now a full set, ready painted, would look great, don't you think?
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« Reply #599 on: May 30th, 2007, 6:53pm »

Well, the big news is.........my dvd arrived today!
And my wife was at her sister's this evening so I watched both discs!
Ok, too early to form a complete opinion yet, but initial reaction is - great! A superb performance from the band. The quality of the picture is stunning, possibly even better than 'Instant Delivery'. And the music is, of course, wonderful.
A tiny quibble here (!) You don't see either Tomas Bodin or Daniel Gildenlow as much as you should, imo of course. Even when Tomas is doing a solo, as in 'Stardust We Are', the camera doesn't get trained on him. A pity really. And there are times when Daniel is singing and you are wondering where the voice is coming from!
However, they are small gripes. It's really an excellent dvd. I am made up with it. And it's funny to see how some of the band have changed in only three or four years. Tomas mainly. He looks completely different here.
Will report back on it after a few more watches, so it could take me a week or two. But I am happy!! grin
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