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« Reply #5190 on: Aug 24th, 2012, 2:19pm »

Tickets for Leamington arrived today... grin
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« Reply #5191 on: Aug 24th, 2012, 3:41pm »

on Aug 24th, 2012, 2:19pm, soldoutfad wrote:
Tickets for Leamington arrived today... grin


And I got home today to see that Nov's packet had arrived while I was away! Thanks Nov! smiley


(Did you get mine too, Fraser? Gooner said you were getting it.)

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« Reply #5192 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 06:26am »

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Anyway. Zoltan Czörsz Jr is BACK! In prog. About time?
Sorry I'm too stupid to post a pic but here is one!
http://www.bunchakeze.com/The_road_to_Avalon.php
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« Reply #5193 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 08:55am »

on Aug 28th, 2012, 06:26am, BunChakeze wrote:
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I cannot figure out how to post a pic here. Grrrr.
Anyway. Zoltan Czörsz Jr is BACK! In prog. About time?
Sorry I'm too stupid to post a pic but here is one!
http://www.bunchakeze.com/The_road_to_Avalon.php


This is great news! I've always felt there was no replacement for Zoltan in TFK, and it was expected he'd never be involved in any more progressive rock projects as he is, and always will be, a jazz drummer. Zoltan Csörsz is arguably the best drummer around today...period.
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« Reply #5194 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 12:38pm »

on Aug 24th, 2012, 2:19pm, soldoutfad wrote:
Tickets for Leamington arrived today... grin

Excellent!

So you're to Leamington AND London Fraser?

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« Reply #5195 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 1:12pm »

on Aug 28th, 2012, 08:55am, CountingOutTime wrote:
This is great news! I've always felt there was no replacement for Zoltan in TFK, and it was expected he'd never be involved in any more progressive rock projects as he is, and always will be, a jazz drummer. Zoltan Csörsz is arguably the best drummer around today...period.


Thems fightin words. He is a superb stick man but for me Gavin Harrison is hard to beat. It's all about opinion of course. For me, I am still struggling with the new album.
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« Reply #5196 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 1:26pm »

on Aug 28th, 2012, 1:12pm, NedFlanders wrote:
Thems fightin words. He is a superb stick man but for me Gavin Harrison is hard to beat. It's all about opinion of course. For me, I am still struggling with the new album.


Gavin is great too, but I have a greater appreciation for jazz drumming. It takes an exceptional skill, above and beyond traditional rock drumming. Another amazing skins man is Pat Mastelotto. Have you seen the TFK DVD "Tour Kaputt"? Jaw-dropping.

Re: The new TFK album - I too struggle with some of it, but most of it is new-sounding and wonderful. As usual, they've released too much at one time, and thus repeated themselves.
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« Reply #5197 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 3:07pm »

Gavin Harrison is an excellent drummer, but, for me, Zoltan has the edge over him. (Personally, I always preferred Chris Maitland in PT. His drumming seemed 'warmer' or 'more laid back' to my ears. Plus, his backing vocals were decent too.)

Played Banks Of Eden yesterday. Still love it to bits.
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« Reply #5198 on: Aug 28th, 2012, 8:00pm »

on Aug 28th, 2012, 1:26pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
Re: The new TFK album - I too struggle with some of it, but most of it is new-sounding and wonderful. As usual, they've released too much at one time, and thus repeated themselves.

What are you struggling with David and why is it "too much"?

It's the first TFK album for five years and their shortest single disk so I don't understand how it can be considered too much undecided

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« Reply #5199 on: Aug 29th, 2012, 08:41am »

on Aug 28th, 2012, 8:00pm, Nov wrote:
What are you struggling with David and why is it "too much"?

It's the first TFK album for five years and their shortest single disk so I don't understand how it can be considered too much undecided



I have the 'special edition' which comes with a second disc of songs, and it is pretty good too. Like I said, much of the new album is wonderful, but they do tend to re-use the same ideas on every album of late. I guess I just want to re-discover them all over again, but there isn't a song on the new album that allows me to do just that. Still, it's a fine release.
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« Reply #5200 on: Aug 30th, 2012, 11:58am »

Lately I've taken a break from Banks of Eden, but just yesterday I listened to a bit of Unfold The Future. Hadn't played that one in ages, so it was quite the trip hearing it again. What a towering achievement it was! Not every song worked for me, but the ones that did work were excellent and unlike anything else of that time.
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« Reply #5201 on: Sep 2nd, 2012, 2:07pm »

on Aug 29th, 2012, 08:41am, CountingOutTime wrote:
I have the 'special edition' which comes with a second disc of songs, and it is pretty good too. Like I said, much of the new album is wonderful, but they do tend to re-use the same ideas on every album of late. I guess I just want to re-discover them all over again, but there isn't a song on the new album that allows me to do just that. Still, it's a fine release.


Too early to tell with just 3 concentrated listens so far. BUT I will say that I really like the album. Unmistakably TFKs and that is no bad thing.
Going to continue to listen.......more detailed thoughts later perhaps.
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« Reply #5202 on: Sep 2nd, 2012, 2:27pm »

A difference of opinion between Roine Stolt and Steven Wilson here. shocked Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. wink
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« Reply #5203 on: Sep 2nd, 2012, 3:11pm »

on Sep 2nd, 2012, 2:27pm, Down And Out wrote:
A difference of opinion between Roine Stolt and Steven Wilson here. shocked Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. wink


I always did think that Steven Wilson must suck as a person. His lyrics show a distaste for life, whereas Roine's are the exact opposite. I think SW has been wallowing in his own muck for too long. It's affected his grey matter.
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« Reply #5204 on: Sep 2nd, 2012, 6:04pm »

on Sep 2nd, 2012, 2:27pm, Down And Out wrote:
A difference of opinion between Roine Stolt and Steven Wilson here. shocked Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. wink


Ah, here we go again... *sigh*

Steven Wilson is a great artist, and one I admire quite a lot. But in my opinion he comes across as a bit of a jerk sometimes, like in that interview. I think he forgets that Roine Stolt has been around a lot longer, and has been making symphonic prog rock since the seventies. You don't hear Wilson making the same statements about Steve Hackett, who the same could arguably be said about with his recent music (and his Genesis Revisited projects). If Roine Stolt (or Steve Hackett) wants to continue making music in the sphere they were originally a part of, whose place is it to condemn?

I don't think Roine's response was inappropriate, given what Steven said initially. Looks to me like he's speaking up on behalf of Mike Portnoy, Pete Trewavas, Neal Morse, Tomas Bodin, Jonas Reingold and others as well as himself.

Oh well. I'm not going to set fire to my Porcupine Tree collection or anything. wink Steven is of course entitled to his opinion. I just think he could have been more gentlemanly about it. Guess they'll have to agree to disagree.

Edit: And apparently this was from an interview in 2005, so it's not exactly current. I didn't realize this at first, so to continue discussion of the interview is probably irrelevant now. I would like to add that in recent interviews I've seen with Steven Wilson, he has seemed a lot more mature and less caustic than in the earlier days. I still have a lot of respect for him. A 7 year-old interview is probably not indicative of where he stands nowadays. smiley
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