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« Reply #3990 on: Aug 1st, 2009, 6:30pm »

Well, I actually played a Flower Kings album today! First time in ages I'm ashamed to say.
But, once Flower Power hit the speakers, I forgot about everything else. It just doesn't get any better than that.
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« Reply #3991 on: Aug 2nd, 2009, 05:47am »

on Aug 1st, 2009, 6:30pm, Chessman wrote:
Well, I actually played a Flower Kings album today! First time in ages I'm ashamed to say.But, once Flower Power hit the speakers, I forgot about everything else. It just doesn't get any better than that.
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I would like you to write the following line 1000 times in punishment

"I must play The Flower Kings more often"
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« Reply #3992 on: Aug 2nd, 2009, 06:31am »

on Aug 2nd, 2009, 05:47am, genesis1964 wrote:
I would like you to write the following line 1000 times in punishment

"I must play The Flower Kings more often"


Yes Sir! Will do that Sir! Straight away Sir! laugh
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« Reply #3993 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm »

on Aug 1st, 2009, 6:30pm, Chessman wrote:
Well, I actually played a Flower Kings album today! First time in ages I'm ashamed to say.
But, once Flower Power hit the speakers, I forgot about everything else. It just doesn't get any better than that.
Supreme stuff. wink


Do you like all of disk 2 Carl?

I think there's some great stuff on there.

Unfortunately the general opinion on various forums is that this is seen as though it's some kind of bonus disk and people write it off after one listen.

In fact one of the most common crticisms of The Flower Kings is the sheer amount of music they have put on their albums. It's too much for people with a limited attention span wink

Because I love the band so much I've persevered with all of their stuff but lots of people use these experimental tracks as a stick to bash the band with. It's so frustrating.

It would be interesting to enter a parallel universe where Roine had just selected the absolute solid 50 minutes of brilliance that there is (at least) on every Flower Kings CD and see what the general opinion would be of the band now.

By the way, I wonder how Bluegirl and Chokky are getting on with TFK. They've gone very quiet wink

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« Reply #3994 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 6:55pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm, Nov wrote:
Do you like all of disk 2 Carl?

I think there's some great stuff on there.

Unfortunately the general opinion on various forums is that this is seen as though it's some kind of bonus disk and people write it off after one listen.

In fact one of the most common crticisms of The Flower Kings is the sheer amount of music they have put on their albums. It's too much for people with a limited attention span wink

Because I love the band so much I've persevered with all of their stuff but lots of people use these experimental tracks as a stick to bash the band with. It's so frustrating.

It would be interesting to enter a parallel universe where Roine had just selected the absolute solid 50 minutes of brilliance that there is (at least) on every Flower Kings CD and see what the general opinion would be of the band now.

By the way, I wonder how Bluegirl and Chokky are getting on with TFK. They've gone very quiet wink



Yes Nov, I like all of disc 2! I can't in all honesty say that any of it is better than the sublime Garden Of Dreams, over on disc 1, but then again, I can't say it's in any way inferior either! Some magnificent stuff on there. I think Roine almost reached a peak with that album, and if he ever does a better one, I'll be gobsmacked, to say the least!
I agree also with what you say about people's limited attention spans. I myself have found some of their stuff overwhelming at first, but it always gets me in the end, sooner or later.
As for your comment about a parallel universe, well, if Roine only released 50 minute albums, then I'm sure he would by now be hailed as a true genius. As I've said before, if The flower Kings had been going in the early seventies, I doubt many bands would have been able to compete with them. It's only because they weren't in 'at the beginning' so to speak, that they aren't held in higher esteem.
You and I know different, of course! wink
Imagine if you had to compile a single disc 'best of' for the band. Just how impossible would that be? Even if it was a two or three disc set, it would still be incredibly hard.
As for the girls, I hope they are enjoying being immersed in so much top class music. I'm sure they'll report back when they're ready. (I did comment on the absence of Bassman recently too!) rolleyes

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« Reply #3995 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 5:41pm »

Played another Flower Kings album today, the magnificent: Retropolis.
It's been quite a while since I heard that one. At first I was amazed how good it sounded, but then, I realised it was just another slice of magic from Roine and the boys. cheesy
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« Reply #3996 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 7:13pm »

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I can't wait to see them again.........

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« Reply #3997 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 7:23pm »


THIS MAN SHOULD BE A SUPERSTAR!!!

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« Reply #3998 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 06:36am »

on Aug 9th, 2009, 5:41pm, Chessman wrote:
Played another Flower Kings album today, the magnificent: Retropolis.
It's been quite a while since I heard that one. At first I was amazed how good it sounded, but then, I realised it was just another slice of magic from Roine and the boys. cheesy


Strange how after all this time, I still can't get it undecided
Well, just got 8 for my copy of Retropolis on e-bay grin
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« Reply #3999 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 3:03pm »

on Aug 10th, 2009, 06:36am, Mal wrote:
Strange how after all this time, I still can't get it undecided
Well, just got 8 for my copy of Retropolis on e-bay grin


Well, we all have different tastes Mal, and we can't all like everything. It's obvious that TFK are not for you. If you've given them a fair listen, then you can do no more than that.
It's like me with King Crimson, ELP and Dream Theater; none of them have ever done anything for me. Never appealed to me in the least.
It doesn't stop them being highly rated by many though, just because I don't care for them. Each to their own. wink
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« Reply #4000 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 3:35pm »

on Aug 10th, 2009, 3:03pm, Chessman wrote:
Well, we all have different tastes Mal, and we can't all like everything. It's obvious that TFK are not for you. If you've given them a fair listen, then you can do no more than that.
It's like me with King Crimson, ELP and Dream Theater; none of them have ever done anything for me. Never appealed to me in the least.
It doesn't stop them being highly rated by many though, just because I don't care for them. Each to their own. wink


Carl, I love ELP's "Tarkus" album. The Tarkus Suite is the best thing ELP ever did. There's been nothing else like it from any other band. After that, Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery are pretty amazing as well. I hate the comedic bits they did though; ie, "Benny The Bouncer," "The Sheriff," "Jeremy Bender," "Are You Ready Eddie," etc; it didn't suit their progressive style.

As for King Crimson, I completely agree with you, Carl, except for maybe some of their earlier stuff like "Red" or "Starless and Bible Black." "Discipline" was exciting with the birth of a new KC lineup, which included the much-heralded Adrian Belew and Tony Levin, both musical geniuses, but they quickly fizzled out with "Beat" and "Three Of A Perfect Pair." Whenever I want to listen to KC, I put on their anthology, "The Condensed 21st Century Guide to King Crimson: 1969-2003;" it's got much of what I enjoy by this band of crazies.

Now Dream Theater, they're a funny bunch too. Very inconsistent, yet samey. Now that they've started doing growls in their music, which I won't tolerate, I'd have to say that my faves of theirs are "Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory," "Images and Words," and "Awake."




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« Reply #4001 on: Aug 11th, 2009, 3:45pm »

Dave, The main reason I don't like ELP, even above the comedic songs they did, is simply Greg Lake's voice. Never liked it. Neither do I think he's a particularly good musician. If he'd left and Hendrix had come in, that might have made them better, except Emerson and Hendrix would probably have ended up having tiff after tiff!
Now, if you put Stolt and Reingold alongside Emerson and Palmer, you might get something I would enjoy more....and how's that for a great way of getting this thread back to TFK? grin
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on Aug 11th, 2009, 3:45pm, Chessman wrote:
Dave, The main reason I don't like ELP, even above the comedic songs they did, is simply Greg Lake's voice. Never liked it. Neither do I think he's a particularly good musician. If he'd left and Hendrix had come in, that might have made them better, except Emerson and Hendrix would probably have ended up having tiff after tiff!
Now, if you put Stolt and Reingold alongside Emerson and Palmer, you might get something I would enjoy more....and how's that for a great way of getting this thread back to TFK? grin


You may have a point there. EHP with Hendrix might have gone farther than ELP ever could have with Lake. Although, it was Emerson's jealousy over Lake's songs getting airplay that eventually tore them apart as a band.

Lucky Man, which Lake wrote while he was still in school, became ELP's biggest hit. That must have really pissed off Keith. I have a DVD biography of ELP that shows a lot of old studio footage, and there's a point where Keith mentions how upset he is that his compositions aren't getting any recognition, the problem of course being the length and genre of song he wrote.

My second concert that I attended was in 1974, ELP performing Brain Salad Surgery in its entirety, plus much of Tarkus. I must say that the gig completely blew me away. I even went back the second night and took my brother with me. Ticket price was less than ten dollars.

Yes Carl, EPSR (with Stolt/Reingold) would undoubtedly be a hit. Can you imagine what Roine could do with some of ELP's compositions? Trilogy and Tarkus would be taken to their musical limits ............ and beyond cool

Oh yeah, before I forget..............

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« Reply #4003 on: Aug 17th, 2009, 3:23pm »

I think that, regarding ELP, if they'd got Hendrix and Chris Squire in, alongside Emerson and Palmer, that line-up could have produced some superb music. Maybe it would have been a little more pyschedelic, especially if Jimi took on the lead vocals, but that could have been really something. So, we now have a new band - SHEP. (Sounds like a sheepdog!)
On the subject of swapping musicians, I wonder how Yes would sound if Zoltan and Roine joined Wakeman, Squire and Anderson? That could be rather good too. wink
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« Reply #4004 on: Aug 17th, 2009, 3:28pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm, Nov wrote:
By the way, I wonder how Bluegirl and Chokky are getting on with TFK. They've gone very quiet wink



Me and Sue quiet?? shocked You've got the wrong people!!

I haven't forgotten TFK, have been playing your lovely compilations whenever I can (not an easy task while the kids are on holiday!!) and have been nagging anyone and everyone who'll listen to give them a try. grin

I've been quiet on the thread, as I've been unable to afford my first TFK album, but will report back my thoughts as soon as I can.

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