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« Reply #2580 on: Feb 27th, 2008, 7:28pm »

After threatening to do it several times in the last few months, I have actually managed to get round to it...I've listened to Flower Power!! shocked

Not only once, but - get this - several times!!...add the first time I listened to it back last year when I bought it, and I have now listened to Flower Power - ooh I'm starting to lose count!... cheesy

Flower Power was my seventh Flower Kings album after (in this order):
Paradox Hotel
Unfold The Future
Stardust We Are
Space Revolver
The Sum Of No Evil
The Flower King

After being so highly rated by some of you I had high expectations and unfortunately was very dissapointed with my first listen...(back in November I think it was)...
Trouble was, I had a lot of other stuff to listen to at the time and was just getting into Riverside amongst others...I think it was probably music overload as 2007 was such a wonderful year of discovery for me smiley

Well....I've had my rest from The Flower Kings (all of December and January!)...and a couple of weeks ago decided it was time to get 'back on track'.

I warmed up with my favourites: Stardust and Space Revolver.
I began listening again to The Flower King (which I also don't feel I did justice to last year)...and then last week felt I was ready to go for the big one! wink

...and I'm so glad I did !...

...the first time on monday was hard work - especially the 2nd disk...but with each successive play I'm enjoying it more and more!

In truth, I haven't listened to anything else all week! smiley

My current experience with the album is almost the opposite of CarpetCrawler's...I'm really getting into the entire Garden of Dreams epic thing and, along with Astral Dog, think that the whole of cd1 is really rather good.
I like the first three tracks on cd2 (and to be honest I've been cheating there a bit as I usually start again with disk 1 at that point), so I'm now in the process of getting used to everything beyond Corruption...after the glories of Deaf, Numb & Blind, Stupid Girl & Corruption, tracks like Power of Kindness, Psycedelic Postcard & Hudson River Sirens Call 1998 are rather hard work!

...but I'm sticking at it and know it will be well worth all the effort! grin

So there you have it...one man's epic struggle with his nemesis-cd !

You had faith...you knew I could do it! cool

cheers to you all

Fraser




ps:... now I'm back on track with my exploration of the world of The Flower Kings...should my next purchase be Retropolis, Back In The World Of Adventures or The Rainmaker huh
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« Reply #2581 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 11:13am »

on Feb 27th, 2008, 7:28pm, soldoutfad wrote:
After threatening to do it several times in the last few months, I have actually managed to get round to it...I've listened to Flower Power!! shocked

Hooray!!!!


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Not only once, but - get this - several times!!...add the first time I listened to it back last year when I bought it, and I have now listened to Flower Power - ooh I'm starting to lose count!... cheesy

Well, that's just what this album needs wink

The temptation (and I'm just as guilty) is to give up on new prog albums and reach for a CD that you already know and love. Then from then on you can just say to people "Oh I tried Flower Power a couple of times but it's just so over-blown". This is exactly what people say on other music forums.

However, Once you really start to like a band such as TFK you just know that repeated listens are going to yield more and more enjoyment and you'll never get bored with an album such as Flower Power. I still don't really know that well it and I've had it about 6 years wink


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After being so highly rated by some of you I had high expectations and unfortunately was very dissapointed with my first listen...(back in November I think it was)...
Trouble was, I had a lot of other stuff to listen to at the time and was just getting into Riverside amongst others...I think it was probably music overload as 2007 was such a wonderful year of discovery for me smiley

Well, you've been kind of swamped with out-standing music since we met at that Marillion gig cheesy

Some of the groups you've discovered such as Riverside and Porcupine Tree are far more immediate than The Flower Kings and (related to what I said above), you're more likely to want to play their CDs initially than struggle to get into an album like Flower Power.


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I warmed up with my favourites: Stardust and Space Revolver. I began listening again to The Flower King (which I also don't feel I did justice to last year)...and then last week felt I was ready to go for the big one! wink

...and I'm so glad I did !...

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In truth, I haven't listened to anything else all week!

That's exactly what is required. You need to immerse yourself in this album.


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so I'm now in the process of getting used to everything beyond Corruption...after the glories of Deaf, Numb & Blind, Stupid Girl & Corruption, tracks like Power of Kindness, Psycedelic Postcard & Hudson River Sirens Call 1998 are rather hard work!

I agree that some of it is hard work but there are also other excellent tracks such as "Painter", "Magic Pie" and "Calling Home".


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...but I'm sticking at it and know it will be well worth all the effort! grin

Definitely!!


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So there you have it...one man's epic struggle with his nemesis-cd !

I'm exhausted just reading about it cheesy


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You had faith...you knew I could do it! cool

I'm sure Nikki was in tears reading about your Epiphany wink


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ps:... now I'm back on track with my exploration of the world of The Flower Kings...should my next purchase be Retropolis, Back In The World Of Adventures or The Rainmaker huh

All of 'em mate wink

Seriously, you'll love them all. Rainmaker is the most immediate and has really grown on me since it come out. World of Adventures and Retropolis are absolute modern prog classics in my opinion.

Great stuff Fraser.

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« Reply #2582 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 4:45pm »

Thanks Nov...I'm seriously enjoying Flower Power now...I played it all the way through today without skipping a single track!...I've gotten over the daft vocals in Psycedelic Postcard and even that bloody shreiking woman in Hudson River Sirens Call 1998 !...they were an instant turn off the first time I heard the tracks but now I'm getting used to them wink

Flower Power is a long album and it takes all day at work to get through it...what with all the endless phone calls, meetings and other stuff that gets in the way cheesy

To think...just a week ago I honestly didn't think I would ever like this album!
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« Reply #2583 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 5:02pm »

on Feb 27th, 2008, 7:15pm, Nov wrote:
So.........how come Genesis aren't on your all-time top 8 then when the other 4 prog faves are?

Sorry to be pedantic Gooner but it's not adding up wink

Here's my top 5:

1) Genesis
2) The Beatles
3) Steely Dan
4) The Flower Kings
5) Camel



Whoops schoolboy error there embarassed grin, I was tired last night writing that after working all day then sorting out the new flat ( nearly there) Genesis would go after Yes.

As for Flower Power , I am really into the first disc , I haven't played the second yet as I didn't want to get swamped.
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« Reply #2584 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 5:09pm »

Jean Michel Jarre and Dire Straits are two of my faves too, Gooner! U2 used to be up there too, especially their early stuff.
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« Reply #2585 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 6:07pm »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 5:09pm, Gabble Ratchet wrote:
Jean Michel Jarre and Dire Straits are two of my faves too, Gooner! U2 used to be up there too, especially their early stuff.


Hi Lesley

Did you know he's playing in Birmingham on the 27th March. He's doing the whole of the oxygene album live.
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« Reply #2586 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 6:19pm »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 6:07pm, gooner265 wrote:
Hi Lesley

Did you know he's playing in Birmingham on the 27th March. He's doing the whole of the oxygene album live.

No I didn't!!! Oh no! This year's gonna be a repeat of last year...all my funds going on gigs! How much are the tickets?
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on Feb 28th, 2008, 6:19pm, Gabble Ratchet wrote:
No I didn't!!! Oh no! This year's gonna be a repeat of last year...all my funds going on gigs! How much are the tickets?


Not cheap about 65 I think , was thinking off going myself but albert hall ones were even dearer.
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« Reply #2588 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 7:11pm »

on Feb 27th, 2008, 7:28pm, soldoutfad wrote:
After threatening to do it several times in the last few months, I have actually managed to get round to it...I've listened to Flower Power!! shocked

Not only once, but - get this - several times!!...add the first time I listened to it back last year when I bought it, and I have now listened to Flower Power - ooh I'm starting to lose count!... cheesy

Flower Power was my seventh Flower Kings album after (in this order):
Paradox Hotel
Unfold The Future
Stardust We Are
Space Revolver
The Sum Of No Evil
The Flower King

After being so highly rated by some of you I had high expectations and unfortunately was very dissapointed with my first listen...(back in November I think it was)...
Trouble was, I had a lot of other stuff to listen to at the time and was just getting into Riverside amongst others...I think it was probably music overload as 2007 was such a wonderful year of discovery for me smiley

Well....I've had my rest from The Flower Kings (all of December and January!)...and a couple of weeks ago decided it was time to get 'back on track'.

I warmed up with my favourites: Stardust and Space Revolver.
I began listening again to The Flower King (which I also don't feel I did justice to last year)...and then last week felt I was ready to go for the big one! wink

...and I'm so glad I did !...

...the first time on monday was hard work - especially the 2nd disk...but with each successive play I'm enjoying it more and more!

In truth, I haven't listened to anything else all week! smiley

My current experience with the album is almost the opposite of CarpetCrawler's...I'm really getting into the entire Garden of Dreams epic thing and, along with Astral Dog, think that the whole of cd1 is really rather good.
I like the first three tracks on cd2 (and to be honest I've been cheating there a bit as I usually start again with disk 1 at that point), so I'm now in the process of getting used to everything beyond Corruption...after the glories of Deaf, Numb & Blind, Stupid Girl & Corruption, tracks like Power of Kindness, Psycedelic Postcard & Hudson River Sirens Call 1998 are rather hard work!

...but I'm sticking at it and know it will be well worth all the effort! grin

So there you have it...one man's epic struggle with his nemesis-cd !

You had faith...you knew I could do it! cool

cheers to you all

Fraser




ps:... now I'm back on track with my exploration of the world of The Flower Kings...should my next purchase be Retropolis, Back In The World Of Adventures or The Rainmaker huh


I knew you could do it Fraser! Congratulations!
I guarantee that, the more you listen to it, the more you'll like it. Disc two has some of my very favourite FK tracks on it: Pychedelic Postcard, Stupid Girl, Calling Home, Magic Pie, Painter, Deaf, Numb and Blind, Hudson River, oh, the whole thing, in fact!
Add to that my favourite FK epic, Garden Of Dreams, and the very Satriani-inspired Astral Dog, and you have a rather splendid line-up of songs from a rather brilliant group of individuals. wink

As to your next purchase, well, get them all! grin
However, if you are only getting one, I would say start at the beginning and get BITWOA. Then Retropolis, then The Rainmaker.
You can't go wrong with any of them. smiley
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« Reply #2589 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 7:19pm »

As to my top five, it's always notoriously difficult to keep to the same list. It often changes, depending on my mood. A year ago Rush and Yes would have been in there. At the moment, they are 'only' top 10 bands. cheesy

Current top five would be:

Genesis
The Flower Kings
Porcupine Tree
Steve Hackett
Kaipa

Outside prog it's very difficult to choose a top five.
As I sit here and think about it, the names currently coming to mind are:

Chris Rea
Gary Moore
Abba
Atomic Swing
Keane (yes, I love both their albums. Pure pop, but pure class. Incredibly catchy.)
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« Reply #2590 on: Feb 28th, 2008, 7:29pm »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 7:19pm, Chessman wrote:
As to my top five, it's always notoriously difficult to keep to the same list. It often changes, depending on my mood. A year ago Rush and Yes would have been in there. At the moment, they are 'only' top 10 bands. cheesy

Current top five would be:

Genesis
The Flower Kings
Porcupine Tree
Steve Hackett
Kaipa

Outside prog it's very difficult to choose a top five.
As I sit here and think about it, the names currently coming to mind are:

Chris Rea
Gary Moore
Abba
Atomic Swing
Keane (yes, I love both their albums. Pure pop, but pure class. Incredibly catchy.)
smiley


I thought I read that wrong and you put Atomic Kitten at first embarassed grin grin
Funnily enough was playing my one and only Chris Rea album tonight , first time in ages 'God's great banana skin' i love Nothing To Fear on there. What other's would you recommend?
Also good to see Abba , they did write some very well crafted songs in my opinion. Fave being Winner Takes It All smiley
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« Reply #2591 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 08:08am »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 7:19pm, Chessman wrote:
As to my top five, it's always notoriously difficult to keep to the same list. It often changes, depending on my mood. A year ago Rush and Yes would have been in there. At the moment, they are 'only' top 10 bands. cheesy

Current top five would be:

Genesis
The Flower Kings
Porcupine Tree
Steve Hackett
Kaipa

Outside prog it's very difficult to choose a top five.
As I sit here and think about it, the names currently coming to mind are:

Chris Rea
Gary Moore
Abba
Atomic Swing
Keane (yes, I love both their albums. Pure pop, but pure class. Incredibly catchy.)
smiley


Right with you on the Chris Rea thing..I have all his early stuff: Tennis, Deltics, Wired, Shamrock etc...loved him in the '80's

Also with you on ABBA...after the eurovision thing I couldn't get enough of 'em back in the late '70's...loved their Arrival album back in the day!

Also right there with you on the Keane front too!...no use being snobby about it - those two albums are absolute crackers full of wonderful music...some of the sounds they produce are breath-takingly beautiful and I find some of their music very moving in a similar way to that of our heroes Genesis smiley

It's easy to malign Keane, they are such a soft target as they hit the top straight away and appeal to little girls and little old ladies alike...but they are class!
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« Reply #2592 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 08:57am »

on Feb 28th, 2008, 7:11pm, Chessman wrote:
I knew you could do it Fraser! Congratulations!
I guarantee that, the more you listen to it, the more you'll like it. Disc two has some of my very favourite FK tracks on it: Pychedelic Postcard, Stupid Girl, Calling Home, Magic Pie, Painter, Deaf, Numb and Blind, Hudson River, oh, the whole thing, in fact!
Add to that my favourite FK epic, Garden Of Dreams, and the very Satriani-inspired Astral Dog, and you have a rather splendid line-up of songs from a rather brilliant group of individuals. wink

As to your next purchase, well, get them all! grin
However, if you are only getting one, I would say start at the beginning and get BITWOA. Then Retropolis, then The Rainmaker.
You can't go wrong with any of them. smiley
Cheers,
Carl


Cheers Carl...Deaf, Numb & Blind was on the sample disc Nov made for me so I've enjoyed that one since June...I love Stupid Girl - it sounds to me like an Iggy Pop song smiley...also really like Astral Dog and am getting well-into Garden of Dreams - at first play it sounded very disparate but now it just seems to flow a lot better...who knows - I probably thought the same about Suppers Ready the first time I heard it! wink

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« Reply #2593 on: Feb 29th, 2008, 12:23pm »

Enjoying this album this morning. The wife and I are having a new roof put on, so while having a cup of coffee and chatting with the roofer, we discussed everything under the sun; ie, the reason for our existence here on earth, extraterrestrials, God, etc, with TFK playing in the background. I may have converted our roofer to progressive rock. To think, he doesn't even know yet about Neal Morse, Transatlantic, Kaipa, Karmakanic, Spock's Beard, Porcupine Tree, etc. Oh, what a lucky man he is!

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on Feb 29th, 2008, 12:23pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
Enjoying this album this morning. The wife and I are having a new roof put on, so while having a cup of coffee and chatting with the roofer, we discussed everything under the sun; ie, the reason for our existence here on earth, extraterrestrials, God, etc, with TFK playing in the background. I may have converted our roofer to progressive rock. To think, he doesn't even know yet about Neal Morse, Transatlantic, Kaipa, Karmakanic, Spock's Beard, Porcupine Tree, etc. Oh, what a lucky man he is!

BY THE WAY, ORIGINAL ARTWORK BY ROINE STOLT HIMSELF


Yes, your roofer has a lot of catching up to do grin
Flower Kings has made a lot of cd's. Love Transatlantic and Neal Morse.
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