Board Logo
« So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :) »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
Feb 23rd, 2018, 6:38pm



« Previous Topic | Next Topic »
Pages: 1 ... 72 73 74 75 76  ...  377 Notify Send Topic Print
 veryhotthread  Author  Topic: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)  (Read 5641 times)
Didrik
Moonlit Knight
ImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




Homepage PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 72
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1095 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 06:03am »

on Jul 31st, 2007, 01:49am, Nov wrote:
I agree. They are definitely in my top 5 but my top 3 are pretty fixed (Genesis, The Beatles and Steely Dan) and being rather older than you it's gonna be hard to place TFK above any of them.

One thing is sure, I listen to TFK much more than any other band and have done for some time now.



Don't be sad about it Didrik, be happy that you are able to. Imagine what it was like for us lot in the 70s and 80s before the internet. Luckily Genesis and Yes (etc) were a lot more popular so there were other fans around but I had a hard job sharing my love of Camel.

Who does your Dad like?



I nominate chessman for this as he's great at this sort of thing (OK Carl?). Suffice to say that it's an immense album and an essential purchase. There is just so much fantastic music on it.

smiley



I understand that those three can't be moved around too much, you haven't really known tfk that long have you?

I have only listened to TFK for about 2 years, and until a yar ago I only had a burnt copy of the Rainmaker that i rarely listened to.. but when i gave it some time i could get Road To sanctuary and Sword Of God out of my head!!

But I have been a big Dream Theater fan since 2001, and Scenes From A Memory was the only album I listened to for about six months.. But the future will tell who get's the top positionsmiley

My dad loves The Beatles and Rolling Stones mostly I think, but he really likes Pink Floyd and Genesis too. He used to listen to much of that stuff when he was younger, and I know he's got some old ELP, King Crimson and other progbands on vinyl somewhere..

I did kinda expect it would be most excellent, but it would like some more on it (SWA, that is). But if it's a hassle, Chessman, don't bother.. I will probably buy it anywaysmiley
User IP Logged

Please check out my Band Harmophonia
http://www.myspace.com/harmophonia
Nov
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM


Posts: 7247
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1096 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 08:27am »

on Jul 31st, 2007, 06:03am, Didrik wrote:
I understand that those three can't be moved around too much, you haven't really known tfk that long have you?

Only about 8 years grin


Quote:
But I have been a big Dream Theater fan since 2001, and Scenes From A Memory was the only album I listened to for about six months.. But the future will tell who get's the top positionsmiley

It will be TFK wink


Quote:
My dad loves The Beatles and Rolling Stones mostly I think, but he really likes Pink Floyd and Genesis too. He used to listen to much of that stuff when he was younger, and I know he's got some old ELP, King Crimson and other progbands on vinyl somewhere..

Going from what he likes, the only possible reason that he wouldn't like The Flower Kings would be that he thinks that no "modern" band could match the classics and is therefore not worth listening to. If he is open-minded, I'm sure he would like them wink


Quote:
I did kinda expect it would be most excellent, but it would like some more on it (SWA, that is). But if it's a hassle, Chessman, don't bother.. I will probably buy it anywaysmiley

I've saved Chessman the trouble and found his review of SWA on Prog Archives (by accident). I'm sure he won't mind me reproducing it here:


THE FLOWER KINGS Stardust We Are
Review by chessman (Carl Swallow)
PROG REVIEWER
this album is the one that first demonstrates the immense talent this band has. The debut was solid, but unspectacular, whilst 'Retropolis' was, for me, disappointing, lacking in melody and sounding somewhat disjointed. (See my reviews for these albums.) I know other fans rate 'Retropolis' as one of their best, but for me, it is their least enjoyable. Now this album is a different matter! A two disc ride of enjoyable melodies and superb playing. Although the Kings have their own style, their biggest influence, Yes, still shows through at times. 'In The Eyes Of The World' is quite a heavy, upbeat type of song, the type that doesn't usually do anything for me, but it is a great opener here. Excellent vocals and guitar work. then comes a trademark short keyboard led instrumental, 'A Room With A View' which is very nice, almost reminds me of Tomita. (Remember him?) 'Just This Once' is one of the tracks with a Yes influence. The guitar work is both Howish, and, near the end, Peter Banksy in its tone. A nice change of pace for the ending of this track, slowing down after the medium paced main body of the song has finished. I like this one. Then comes the standout track on disc one, the amazing 'Church Of Your Heart'. This is classic Yes, both in melody, and in vocals, thanks to Hasse's Jon Anderson type harmonies. Even the keyboards about two thirds through sound like something off 'Going For The One'. A beautiful song, and one of their best, in my opinion. Then comes the short acoustic instrumental, 'Poor Mr Rain's Ordinary Guitar' which is very soothing. This leads into 'the Man Who Walked With Kings', which is another instrumental, with acoustic and electric guitar. It is nice, but not one of my favourites. 'Circus Brimstone', again, instrumental, is another monster, one which took a little time to grow on me, but eventually became a favourite. It certainly has a circus feel, mainly thanks to the keyboards, and it is very complex, with many changes in speed and instrumentation. Superb. 'Crying Clown' sounds almost like a continuation of 'Circus', and is a short instrumental. 'Compassion', as far as I can tell, is unique amongst Flower Kings tracks, as it doesn't really sound like one of their songs. You can still tell Roine's voice, but the music is laid back and monkish in nature, especially the backing vocals. It is effective though, and, just when you thought it had finished, it starts again with some disturbingly atmospheric synthesiser work, very good indeed. Disc 2 opens with another short instrumental, 'Pipes Of Peace', which introduces for the first time the melody of the title track. More excellent keyboard work here. 'The End Of Innocence' is quite moody, and not one of my faves, but is still a decent effort. 'The Merrygoround' is more in the style of Yes again, uptempo, with nice guitar work. 'Don Of The Universe' is a fine instrumental, well played and uplifting. 'A Day At The Mall' is, again, a keyboard instrumental, short and amusing. 'Different People' is another Yes type song, again, catchy and melodic. 'Kingdom Of Lies' is upbeat, and again has a Yes influence. 'If 28' is a very atmospheric instrumental. I like this one a lot. Likewise, 'Ghost Of The Red Cloud' with an almost reggae feel to it, is superb. 'Hotel Nirvana' is another short, atmospheric guitar piece,really lovely, and quite disturbing, although it hardly gets going before it has to make way for the album's final piece, the title track and 25 min plus epic 'Stardust We Are'. Very much influenced by Yes, this is in three parts, all wonderful. One of the classic Flower Kings tracks. Roine sings the first two parts, then Hasse does his Jon Anderson impression to bring the track to a fitting, soaring climax. Even the guitar work as the track ends is reminiscent of the guitar work ending 'Awaken' off 'Going For The One'. Tremendous stuff! Overall, this is probably my third favourite Flower Kings album, and, for me, has no filler. Highly recommended for any fan of technical, complex, Yes influenced prog. Stop reading this and buy it!


Nice one Carl wink

Nov



« Last Edit: Jul 31st, 2007, 08:28am by Nov » User IP Logged

Chessman
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Sending Ripples To Entangle You!


PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 19649
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1097 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 09:04am »

on Jul 31st, 2007, 08:27am, Nov wrote:
Only about 8 years grin



It will be TFK wink



Going from what he likes, the only possible reason that he wouldn't like The Flower Kings would be that he thinks that no "modern" band could match the classics and is therefore not worth listening to. If he is open-minded, I'm sure he would like them wink



I've saved Chessman the trouble and found his review of SWA on Prog Archives (by accident). I'm sure he won't mind me reproducing it here:


THE FLOWER KINGS Stardust We Are
Review by chessman (Carl Swallow)
PROG REVIEWER
this album is the one that first demonstrates the immense talent this band has. The debut was solid, but unspectacular, whilst 'Retropolis' was, for me, disappointing, lacking in melody and sounding somewhat disjointed. (See my reviews for these albums.) I know other fans rate 'Retropolis' as one of their best, but for me, it is their least enjoyable. Now this album is a different matter! A two disc ride of enjoyable melodies and superb playing. Although the Kings have their own style, their biggest influence, Yes, still shows through at times. 'In The Eyes Of The World' is quite a heavy, upbeat type of song, the type that doesn't usually do anything for me, but it is a great opener here. Excellent vocals and guitar work. then comes a trademark short keyboard led instrumental, 'A Room With A View' which is very nice, almost reminds me of Tomita. (Remember him?) 'Just This Once' is one of the tracks with a Yes influence. The guitar work is both Howish, and, near the end, Peter Banksy in its tone. A nice change of pace for the ending of this track, slowing down after the medium paced main body of the song has finished. I like this one. Then comes the standout track on disc one, the amazing 'Church Of Your Heart'. This is classic Yes, both in melody, and in vocals, thanks to Hasse's Jon Anderson type harmonies. Even the keyboards about two thirds through sound like something off 'Going For The One'. A beautiful song, and one of their best, in my opinion. Then comes the short acoustic instrumental, 'Poor Mr Rain's Ordinary Guitar' which is very soothing. This leads into 'the Man Who Walked With Kings', which is another instrumental, with acoustic and electric guitar. It is nice, but not one of my favourites. 'Circus Brimstone', again, instrumental, is another monster, one which took a little time to grow on me, but eventually became a favourite. It certainly has a circus feel, mainly thanks to the keyboards, and it is very complex, with many changes in speed and instrumentation. Superb. 'Crying Clown' sounds almost like a continuation of 'Circus', and is a short instrumental. 'Compassion', as far as I can tell, is unique amongst Flower Kings tracks, as it doesn't really sound like one of their songs. You can still tell Roine's voice, but the music is laid back and monkish in nature, especially the backing vocals. It is effective though, and, just when you thought it had finished, it starts again with some disturbingly atmospheric synthesiser work, very good indeed. Disc 2 opens with another short instrumental, 'Pipes Of Peace', which introduces for the first time the melody of the title track. More excellent keyboard work here. 'The End Of Innocence' is quite moody, and not one of my faves, but is still a decent effort. 'The Merrygoround' is more in the style of Yes again, uptempo, with nice guitar work. 'Don Of The Universe' is a fine instrumental, well played and uplifting. 'A Day At The Mall' is, again, a keyboard instrumental, short and amusing. 'Different People' is another Yes type song, again, catchy and melodic. 'Kingdom Of Lies' is upbeat, and again has a Yes influence. 'If 28' is a very atmospheric instrumental. I like this one a lot. Likewise, 'Ghost Of The Red Cloud' with an almost reggae feel to it, is superb. 'Hotel Nirvana' is another short, atmospheric guitar piece,really lovely, and quite disturbing, although it hardly gets going before it has to make way for the album's final piece, the title track and 25 min plus epic 'Stardust We Are'. Very much influenced by Yes, this is in three parts, all wonderful. One of the classic Flower Kings tracks. Roine sings the first two parts, then Hasse does his Jon Anderson impression to bring the track to a fitting, soaring climax. Even the guitar work as the track ends is reminiscent of the guitar work ending 'Awaken' off 'Going For The One'. Tremendous stuff! Overall, this is probably my third favourite Flower Kings album, and, for me, has no filler. Highly recommended for any fan of technical, complex, Yes influenced prog. Stop reading this and buy it!


Nice one Carl wink

Nov





Well.....fancy seeing that on here! Seems like this thread has been going awol since my last post, what with Demo Man on about DIY and other sorts of strange things and oddities - but enough about my fellow forum members!!!

My review of SWA is fairly accurate, though I would rate it even higher now. Don't like my comments on BITWOA or Retropolis now. That may have been how I felt at the time, but I love both to bits now. Typical FK scenario there; two albums that I found at first 'ok' or 'disappointing' now both regarded as 'fantastic'. Just proves, once again, that their music grows on you the more you listen to it.
Don't know if I'd rate SWA as my third fave or not, it's pretty close between almost all of them, but it's definitely a fine album.
You'll love it, Didrik!

(Now then Nov, about those royalties you owe me for using my review.....) grin wink
User IP Logged

Chessman
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Sending Ripples To Entangle You!


PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 19649
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1098 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 6:05pm »

Well folks, it's bedtime. But just before I go, I thought I would inform my fellow TFK lovers that the cd I had on order, which was supposed to arrive at the end of August, arrived today!
Yes! Scanning The Greenhouse is now in my possession! And superb it is, of course. Ironically, I've played it all except the last track - The Cinema Show. (This is the Japanese edition with that as a bonus track.)
Sound quality is, as usual, stunning. It's the first time I've heard the re-recorded version of 'The Flower King', and it's magnificent.
As some of you know, it has wonderful cover artwork too.
Inside the booklet there are some interesting pics of the band. On one page there is a shot of the band when Hasse had very short hair whilst, ironically, Roine's hair is just about as long as Hasse has it now! He had a pony tail then. Funny how the two of them have swapped round.
Only two FK albums to get now - The Road Back Home, which I will get at the end of the month, and, of course, the new album.
What a great year for TFK fans!
Night all! cheesy
User IP Logged

squonknikki
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 3386
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1099 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 6:17pm »

That'll be you out of circulation for a while then Carl while you play that one to death!
Hurry back!
If you're not back on by the weekend i'll send a search party! Oh and some Rich Tea biscuits! Oh and tea, lots of tea! Like Roine! Oh sod it i'll be over in about 10 minutes! grin
User IP Logged

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention to arrive safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in totally exhausted and yelling: Holy shit, what a ride!

gooner265
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 1240
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1100 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 6:56pm »

Can I have some of whatever you're on tonight please Nikki grin grin

If they do more than one gig over here I reckon we should have our very own tour/party bus grin grin

I really can't wait for this album now , bring it on.
User IP Logged

Gigs 2011


Face Value - Birmingham 19/03
Blackfield - Shepherds Bush 08/04
Big Country - Shepherds Bush 15/04
British Pink Floyd - Albert Hall 20/04
Riverside - London La Scala 16/05
Roger Waters - O2 Arena 18/05
Didrik
Moonlit Knight
ImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




Homepage PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 72
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1101 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 7:03pm »

What? I hadn't even heard of that album.. I googled and found some information now, but is SWA and The Flower King the same as on The Road Back Home? If it is, I must sadly say that this may well be a TF album I'll never own, as it seems a bit unnecessary now.. But hey, maybe I'll buy it anyway, just to complete the collection..

Thank you Nov for posting the review and thank you Carl for adding some extra info and writing it in the first place! And it really cheered me up to see a review where Compassion is mentioned in a positive setting.. I just can't understand what's not to like.. Hell, I'd buy the whole album if all it had was that final chord grin

Haha I just noticed a thing on SWA from Meet The Flower Kings, Roine and Hasse singing different lyrics in a harmony.. Sounds like Roine got it in the end.. I had to smile, and I guess that makes somewhat of a TFK geek.. but who cares? I am proud to be!!

User IP Logged

Please check out my Band Harmophonia
http://www.myspace.com/harmophonia
Chessman
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Sending Ripples To Entangle You!


PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 19649
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1102 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 05:13am »

on Jul 31st, 2007, 7:03pm, Didrik wrote:
What? I hadn't even heard of that album.. I googled and found some information now, but is SWA and The Flower King the same as on The Road Back Home? If it is, I must sadly say that this may well be a TF album I'll never own, as it seems a bit unnecessary now.. But hey, maybe I'll buy it anyway, just to complete the collection..

Thank you Nov for posting the review and thank you Carl for adding some extra info and writing it in the first place! And it really cheered me up to see a review where Compassion is mentioned in a positive setting.. I just can't understand what's not to like.. Hell, I'd buy the whole album if all it had was that final chord grin

Haha I just noticed a thing on SWA from Meet The Flower Kings, Roine and Hasse singing different lyrics in a harmony.. Sounds like Roine got it in the end.. I had to smile, and I guess that makes somewhat of a TFK geek.. but who cares? I am proud to be!!



I don't know if SWA and The Flower King are the same versions that are on 'The Road Back Home', seeing as I don't yet have that album. Meanwhile, those who have that album may not have 'Scanning The Greenhouse'!
But I suspect they probably are the same versions.
It wasn't a necessary purchase, but I just wanted it to help me complete my collection, and there aren't many other bands I can say that about!
Think I'll be playing it again tonight. laugh

ps: And before I went to bed, I just had to play 'Cinema show'. And I have to say it's a wonderful version! It's the perfect mix between Genesis and TFK. (Though I suspect it's the same version as that on 'The Road Back Home', which some of you will already have.)
I am very impressed indeed! wink
« Last Edit: Aug 1st, 2007, 05:15am by Chessman » User IP Logged

squonknikki
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 3386
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1103 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 6:39pm »

2 Guests, 3 Members
squonknikki, Nov, gooner265

Hello you two! smiley
Well this is cosy! wink rolleyes
Pass the wine over Gooner please!
Nov if you change the channel again i'm going to hide the remote control ...... laugh
(I definitely worked too hard in work today ...... huh)
« Last Edit: Aug 1st, 2007, 7:32pm by squonknikki » User IP Logged

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention to arrive safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in totally exhausted and yelling: Holy shit, what a ride!

squonknikki
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 3386
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1104 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 6:41pm »

on Jul 31st, 2007, 6:56pm, gooner265 wrote:
Can I have some of whatever you're on tonight please Nikki grin grin

If they do more than one gig over here I reckon we should have our very own tour/party bus grin grin
I really can't wait for this album now , bring it on.


HeeHee! How great would that be! grin
Imagine the rucks over the cd player though ..... wink
User IP Logged

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention to arrive safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in totally exhausted and yelling: Holy shit, what a ride!

Nov
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM


Posts: 7247
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1105 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 6:42pm »

on Aug 1st, 2007, 6:39pm, squonknikki wrote:
2 Guests, 3 Members
squonknikki, Nov, gooner265

Hello you two! smiley
Well this is cosy! wink rolleyes
Pass the wine over Gooner please!
Nov if you change the channel again i'm going to hide the remote control ...... laugh
(I definitely worked to hard in work today ...... huh)


I'm just back from the pub quiz and think the Talisker nightcap has finished me off (again!) grin

Check out Roine's interview in the Transatlantic thread wink

Nov
x
User IP Logged

squonknikki
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 3386
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1106 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 6:48pm »

on Aug 1st, 2007, 6:42pm, Nov wrote:
I'm just back from the pub quiz and think the Talisker nightcap has finished me off (again!) grin

laugh laugh laugh Why am i not surprised ..... wink
Talking off being finished off due to alcohol, check out the pics of the GITC gig at Putney from Jean, Sue and Col. My god i was quite drunk before the band came on by the looks! Gooner you were there, but i guess you only saw me from half way through when i was probably heaps worse! grin

Quote:
Check out Roine's interview in the Transatlantic thread wink

Have done that! Very cool guy he is! cool
Playing the compilation as i type! Fab! Thoughts at a later date! grin

Nikki XX
User IP Logged

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention to arrive safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in totally exhausted and yelling: Holy shit, what a ride!

Chessman
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Sending Ripples To Entangle You!


PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 19649
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1107 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 05:20am »

Methinks I'm surrounded by night owls!
I think everyone waits till I toddle off to bed before coming out and making merry, a bit like fairies dancing in a secret glade, out of sight of humanity.
(No! I haven't been drinking!) grin
« Last Edit: Aug 2nd, 2007, 08:06am by Chessman » User IP Logged

Nov
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM


Posts: 7247
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1108 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 06:55am »

Some more details about the new album I didn't know. There's gonna be a 2-Disc limited edition with a 'making of' and 4 bonus tracks. And the track list is as follows:

1. One More Time
2. Love is the Answer
3. Trading My Soul
4. The Sum of No Reason
5. Flight 999 (Brimstone Air)
6. Life in Motion

Here's the link to this info: http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/3435825/The-Sum-Of-No-Evil/Product.html
User IP Logged

Chessman
Lord/Lady of Lords
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

Sending Ripples To Entangle You!


PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 19649
xx Re: So, does anyone here like The Flower Kings? :)
« Reply #1109 on: Aug 2nd, 2007, 08:08am »

on Aug 2nd, 2007, 06:55am, Nov wrote:
Some more details about the new album I didn't know. There's gonna be a 2-Disc limited edition with a 'making of' and 4 bonus tracks. And the track list is as follows:

1. One More Time
2. Love is the Answer
3. Trading My Soul
4. The Sum of No Reason
5. Flight 999 (Brimstone Air)
6. Life in Motion

Here's the link to this info: http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/3435825/The-Sum-Of-No-Evil/Product.html


Brilliant news! Cheers Nov!
cheesy

It just gets better!
User IP Logged

Pages: 1 ... 72 73 74 75 76  ...  377 Notify Send Topic Print
« Previous Topic | Next Topic »

Donate $6.99 for 50,000 Ad-Free Pageviews!

| |

This forum powered for FREE by Conforums ©
Sign up for your own Free Message Board today!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Conforums Support | Parental Controls