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« Reply #1005 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 05:35am »

Well, I took my 'Meet The Flower Kings' dvd down to my mate's yesterday, and we watched both discs, with a break inbetween of course. Not sure if his wife was impressed or not, though she sat and watched the majority of it.
My mate didn't say much, and I wasn't sure what his reaction would be, but after it was finished he simply said 'excellent!'
Then he played me a dvd of Snow Patrol, live at Somerset House or something. An outdoor show.
For me, there was no comparison. I'm not knocking Snow Patrol; they are good at what they do, but, as musicians, they are not in the same league. Yet the place was heaving, and it seems most unfair that they have such a following whilst TFK draw far smaller crowds.
Still, I suppose Snow Patrol are one of the modern darlings of the pop world, and have the press on their side. Good luck to them, but they are not for me.
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« Reply #1006 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 2:52pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 05:35am, Chessman wrote:
Well, I took my 'Meet The Flower Kings' dvd down to my mate's yesterday, and we watched both discs, with a break inbetween of course. Not sure if his wife was impressed or not, though she sat and watched the majority of it.
My mate didn't say much, and I wasn't sure what his reaction would be, but after it was finished he simply said 'excellent!'


To be honest, I'm impressed that you got him to watch the whole thing. That's quite an endurance test for the uninitiated wink

His wife must be very tolerant to let you "have" him for that amount of time wink


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Then he played me a dvd of Snow Patrol, live at Somerset House or something. An outdoor show.


I've seen that on the box. It's OK, as are the band but I think they are a tad over-rated. The Phantoms play 3 of their songs (not at the same gig) and they are really easy to play to be honest. TFK are in a different league, nay Universe instrumentally.


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For me, there was no comparison. I'm not knocking Snow Patrol; they are good at what they do, but, as musicians, they are not in the same league. Yet the place was heaving, and it seems most unfair that they have such a following whilst TFK draw far smaller crowds.


It really is frustrating isn't it? The thing is though that I think there is a mass market out there for the sort of emotional and brilliantly played music of TFK. You only have to look at how 500K Italians lap up the early 70s Genesis stuff and big portions of the crowds out all the other concerts. The trouble is that they don't realise that there are other bands out there doing it.

Snow Patrol kind of reach a bit of an epic feel in "Run" (which The Phantoms played last night) but it's not a patch on the deeper emotion reached in Flower Kings tracks.

Oh well...........


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Still, I suppose Snow Patrol are one of the modern darlings of the pop world, and have the press on their side. Good luck to them, but they are not for me.


I do think that they are one of the better bands out there today and they do write some good tunes, but..............hmmmmm undecided



By the way Carl, your are going to meet up with us when TFK next play aren't you? I don't think that has come up yet.

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« Reply #1007 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 3:52pm »

Forgot to say ........ Flower Power arrived yesterday!!
Ooooooohhhhh!!!! grin
Didn't open it till today though, as it was my birthday pressie to myself! rolleyes
So when i come in from work tomorrow, kids will be in bed, Keith will go to work and i shall have a nice shower, dim the lights and listen to the whole thing from start to finish. I get the feeling i should savour the moment! grin
Will report back then!
Over and out! wink
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« Reply #1008 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 3:59pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 3:52pm, squonknikki wrote:
Forgot to say ........ Flower Power arrived yesterday!!
Ooooooohhhhh!!!! grin
Didn't open it till today though, as it was my birthday pressie to myself! rolleyes

FANTASTIC! You're gonna love it.


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So when i come in from work tomorrow, kids will be in bed, Keith will go to work and i shall have a nice shower, dim the lights.....

Are you getting ready to for the album or for Hasse?


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......and listen to the whole thing from start to finish.

Ahhh!!


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I get the feeling i should savour the moment! grin
Will report back then!
Over and out! wink

Deifinitely! Crack open a bottle of wine whilst you're about it as well wink

I've said it before and I'll say it again: we are truly blessed to have people in this day and age writing emotional rock music of this calibre. I'm sure they could all make better money writing or playing more commercial music but this is what they love playing.....and we love them for it.

Enjoy!!

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« Reply #1009 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 4:33pm »

Garden of Dreams

I've just flicked through each section of this truly amazing piece of work to try and imagine Nikki hearing it for the first time tomorrow. You can drop in on any of the sections at random and it all sounds like the greatest prog rock you've ever heard.

This truly is the epic to end all epics and the funny thing is that although I've been reasonably familiar with this track for about 8 years, I still feel that there is an immense amount to discover within it.

Amazing!!

Even more amazing is that CD2 in no way pales in comparison. This truly is one of the greatest progressive rock albums of this, or any other, era.

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« Reply #1010 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 4:37pm »

Totally agree about Garden of Dreams. Sunny Lane is incredible...


.....and I've only just played it a few times......
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on Jul 22nd, 2007, 4:33pm, Nov wrote:
Garden of Dreams

I've just flicked through each section of this truly amazing piece of work to try and imagine Nikki hearing it for the first time tomorrow. You can drop in on any of the sections at random and it all sounds like the greatest prog rock you've ever heard.

This truly is the epic to end all epics and the funny thing is that although I've been reasonably familiar with this track for about 8 years, I still feel that there is an immense amount to discover within it.

Amazing!!

Even more amazing is that CD2 in no way pales in comparison. This truly is one of the greatest progressive rock albums of this, or any other, era.

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shocked That's some build up Nov! cheesy
Bet you don't get many complaints from your wife! laugh wink
Oooooohhhh Errr!
I am so looking forward to this!
Damn, i have to pull a 12 hour shift before i can hear it!
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« Reply #1012 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 5:13pm »

OK, I've listened to Garden Of Dreams again.

Gotta say that this is one hell of a piece of music. I've got a feeling that this could be, to my ears, some of the best melodic sequences by TFK.
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on Jul 22nd, 2007, 5:13pm, demolition man wrote:
OK, I've listened to Garden Of Dreams again.

Gotta say that this is one hell of a piece of music. I've got a feeling that this could be, to my ears, some of the best melodic sequences by TFK.


Or anybody, I would say wink

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« Reply #1014 on: Jul 23rd, 2007, 3:55pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 5:13pm, demolition man wrote:
OK, I've listened to Garden Of Dreams again.

Gotta say that this is one hell of a piece of music. I've got a feeling that this could be, to my ears, some of the best melodic sequences by TFK.


It's brilliant, isn't it Colin? Melodies come and go with ridiculous ease, the vocal lines are all powerful, the instumentation amazing and the whole thing flows beautifully - for me, it's the modern 'Supper's Ready', and that's saying something for me!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Roine seems to me to be a totally natural songwriter. By this, I mean he seems able to churn out tune after tune, almost on demand. Of course, not all will be top class, but I'm pretty sure that nearly all would be, at the very least, interesting and highly listenable.
I suspect that someone like Neal Morse, while he writes great tunes, has to work at it a lot more. And that's not knocking Neal in any way, it just means that Roine is quite unique, in my book, and dangerously close to 'genius' status, though I hesitate to use that word, as it is far too often employed these days. He is already a legend though, to the people 'in the know'. wink
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« Reply #1015 on: Jul 23rd, 2007, 4:00pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2007, 2:52pm, Nov wrote:
To be honest, I'm impressed that you got him to watch the whole thing. That's quite an endurance test for the uninitiated wink

His wife must be very tolerant to let you "have" him for that amount of time wink




I've seen that on the box. It's OK, as are the band but I think they are a tad over-rated. The Phantoms play 3 of their songs (not at the same gig) and they are really easy to play to be honest. TFK are in a different league, nay Universe instrumentally.




It really is frustrating isn't it? The thing is though that I think there is a mass market out there for the sort of emotional and brilliantly played music of TFK. You only have to look at how 500K Italians lap up the early 70s Genesis stuff and big portions of the crowds out all the other concerts. The trouble is that they don't realise that there are other bands out there doing it.

Snow Patrol kind of reach a bit of an epic feel in "Run" (which The Phantoms played last night) but it's not a patch on the deeper emotion reached in Flower Kings tracks.

Oh well...........




I do think that they are one of the better bands out there today and they do write some good tunes, but..............hmmmmm undecided



By the way Carl, your are going to meet up with us when TFK next play aren't you? I don't think that has come up yet.
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I'm hoping very much that I will be able to do that. Of course, it depends when the dates are and what condition I am in. (Nikki knows what I mean by that.)
But I do hope to get to meet you all. I already count you as my friends, though we've never met. And talking to you all makes the music scene seem more interesting and alive, and makes you want to listen to more and more.
Anyway, I'm sure most of you want to listen to me less and less! I'll shut up for now!
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« Reply #1016 on: Jul 23rd, 2007, 4:32pm »

Carl, I've gotta admit that I've broken my golden rule about listening to new music by new (to me) bands; in this case The Flower Kings and associated solo stuff.

I have tried to get to know the albums too quickly and this has been a mistake. There's just too much to take in to be honest.
For example, The other weekend I was revelling in the Kaipa albums and despite loving them to bits (even more than say Paradox Hotel for example) I have yet to return to it.

Now with Flower Power, I can feel an instant appeal. This has been by far the easiest album to digest. The Garden Dream suite is really getting the full treatment right now. The closing 4 tracks are just awesome.

OK this is my favourite Flower Kings album only after Retropolis perhaps.

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on Jul 23rd, 2007, 4:32pm, demolition man wrote:
I have tried to get to know the albums too quickly and this has been a mistake. There's just too much to take in to be honest.

This was my problem with TFK a few years ago. I knew it all sounded great but I was kind of gorging on it trying to get to know it all. Like trying to read a book you're really enjoying too fast. A bet there's a few thousand Harry Potter fans going through this at the moment wink

Several years later, I'm still getting used to some of their songs that I kind of ignored first time around and discovering great songs that I'd missed.


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Now with Flower Power, I can feel an instant appeal. This has been by far the easiest album to digest. The Garden Dream suite is really getting the full treatment right now. The closing 4 tracks are just awesome.

Ahh yes, those last 4 sections are as good a climax to any epic of any era. Spine-tingling stuff. It was these sections that first hit me. I used to struggle a bit with the quiet sections before them but I'm starting to get used to those now and it's good to have a breather in such a long piece anyway.

I can't wait to hear Nikki's verdict wink

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« Reply #1018 on: Jul 23rd, 2007, 5:44pm »

on Jul 23rd, 2007, 4:00pm, Chessman wrote:
I'm hoping very much that I will be able to do that. Of course, it depends when the dates are and what condition I am in. (Nikki knows what I mean by that.)

Hope you're OK Carl


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But I do hope to get to meet you all. I already count you as my friends, though we've never met. And talking to you all makes the music scene seem more interesting and alive, and makes you want to listen to more and more.

That's excellent.


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Don't you dare!!

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