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« Reply #540 on: Apr 10th, 2009, 3:11pm »

As FatOnes rightly pointed out, it's the poor production which spoils the first album.

Musically, it's a fine album, not dissimilar to the hard rock/prog noodlings of Mirage, but there's no flute.

The early Santana influence beloved of Bardens is apparent (especially on the 19 minute Homage to the God of Light bonus track) and there's a nod towards Focus in parts.
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« Reply #541 on: Apr 10th, 2009, 3:37pm »

on Apr 9th, 2009, 5:20pm, Sahara_sunset wrote:
To be honest, I too seldom play the first two albums. But I still find those albums very good! I guess I will always be a Camel fanboy and an Andy Latimer enthusiast.. I mean, I love THAT man's writing and his emotion and devotion. The first album's highlights for me is Six Ate (Early Latimer composition, fantastic - as always), Slow Yourself Down, Curiosity (Love the guitar solo!) and Arubaluba.

I still have a certain love for all the Camel albums, but a JOY for albums like Dust and Dreams, Harbour of Tears and Rajaz. Nod and A Wink is also great! These albums are really Andy Latimer!!!!

On another note, I really miss the input from Dave Minasian on here...Quite busy........................I hope.......
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Hopefully David is busy with the DVD.. grin
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« Reply #542 on: Apr 10th, 2009, 3:38pm »

To be honest, I've got to say that, overall, I prefer the earlier Camel albums, when they were more a band unit. The later stuff appears to be more like Andy Latimer with other musicians. Not knocking the later stuff of course, I think Latimer is a tremendous talent, not a great singer but a superb guitarist/flautist. Actually, I think I prefer his voice on the earlier albums too. I think I just miss Peter Bardens' input really.
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« Reply #543 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 01:40am »

on Apr 10th, 2009, 3:37pm, noni wrote:
Hopefully David is busy with the DVD.. grin


Thanks Sahara/Noni - it feels nice to be missed. cheesy

I have indeed been quite busy, but not with Camel. The new DVD was originally supposed to be ready in time for a Christmas '08 release. I had completed my work on it before that and sent a rough copy off to CP for their review. Andy was so happy with the way it turned out, he decided he wanted to get involved and was now feeling well enough to do so. So what was originally going to be a good DVD was now going to be a great DVD! But it also meant it was going to be delayed a bit. The ball is now in Andy's court and we'll just have to be patient (me included). I've learned that patience is a prerequisite for being a Camel fan, but always worth it.

I'm so anxious for all of you to see this - it's gonna be that good!

Regarding the topic at hand, the first Camel album is my least favorite and the only one that doesn't get alot of play. That's not to say it's not a good album. I'm more partial to the lush melodic/symphonic side of Camel, which is why Nod and a Wink, Snow Goose, Dust & Dreams, Harbour of Tears, I Can See Your House, Nude, etc. are never far from my speakers. No one can write a better melody than Andy.

What's so great about Camel is that their music works on so many different levels and people of varying tastes can like different aspects of it. After having edited the videos for some of those early tracks like Arubaluba, etc. for CV and Footage and hearing them over and over, I have a real respect for the musicianship and artistry of the first album. But for me, and it's just my taste, it doesn't have that goosebump inducing quality that I get from the soaring melodies featured on all the other albums in their catalogue.

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« Reply #544 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 03:49am »

As the man says in the Honda advert "I couldn't have put it any better myself"

Nice to see you back with us Mr DM cheesy Hope you are chillin to the sounds from Western Europe.
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« Reply #545 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 05:46am »

So how many of you have seen Camel?

These are the concerts that I saw:

1979 - October 11th - Hammersmith Odeon
1979 - October 12th - Hammersmith Odeon
1980 - February 8th - The Venue, Victoria (Peter Bardens solo)
1980 - August 5th - Fulham Greyhound (Peter Bardens solo)
1981- February 23rd - Bristol Colston Hall
1981 - February 27th - Hammersmith Odeon
1981 - April 2nd - Hammersmith Odeon
1982 - May 24th - Guildford Civic Hall
1982 - June 3rd - Hammersmith Odeon
1982 - June 4th - Hammersmith Odeon
1984 - May 11th - Hammersmith Odeon
1997 - April 13th - The Astoria
2000 - October 4th - The Junction, Cambridge
2000 - October 6th - The Astoria
2003 - October 28th - The Astoria

I think the most memorable ones were the very first one (I was so excited but Hammy Odeon was only about 30% full!), then the Nude gigs in 1981 (which were magical), then the Harbour of Tears gig in 1997 (which was beautiful).

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« Reply #546 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 06:34am »

Sadly, the one and only time was on the final show of the farewell tour.

Great night though and really glad I made it.
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« Reply #547 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 07:25am »

Nude Tour 1981 UEA Norwich.
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« Reply #548 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 07:33am »

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« Reply #549 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 07:40am »

Seen them on every tour since 1977, best? Well it would be between the Breathless tour in Germany 78 and the Coming of Age gig in Glasgow, in 1997 their penultimate final tour here. The last one was the Rajaz and that was a little disappointing as Andy was unwell and could barely sing plus that meant they had to cut out some of the Rajaz material.
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« Reply #550 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 08:27am »

on Apr 11th, 2009, 06:34am, Merlin wrote:
Sadly, the one and only time was on the final show of the farewell tour.

Great night though and really glad I made it.


The same for me to. Only saw them in Sheffield with my brother.. I had goosebumps through out, it was a shame I never saw them before... cry

Thanks for the news DM regarding Camel, something to look forward to.
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« Reply #551 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 09:01am »

I'm currently listening to the official bootleg CD from the "nude" concert on April 2nd, 1981at Hammersmith Odeon.

I find it quite emotional realy coz those 'nude' gigs were truly brilliant and at this time I loved Camel as much as Genesis. I cannot believe that this is nearly 30 years ago! That album and tour were a real return to form and their earlier show in February (at Hammersmith) sold out so they added the April gig which also sold out.

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« Reply #552 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 12:00pm »

on Apr 10th, 2009, 3:38pm, Chessman wrote:
To be honest, I've got to say that, overall, I prefer the earlier Camel albums, when they were more a band unit. The later stuff appears to be more like Andy Latimer with other musicians. Not knocking the later stuff of course, I think Latimer is a tremendous talent, not a great singer but a superb guitarist/flautist. Actually, I think I prefer his voice on the earlier albums too. I think I just miss Peter Bardens' input really.
All good stuff though. wink


Andy's voice has changed over the years, but I've always loved his singing. He sings with such warmth. smiley
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« Reply #553 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 12:04pm »

I've seen Camel 8 times, Nov. Between 1975 and 2003. All brilliant and memorable! smiley
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« Reply #554 on: Apr 11th, 2009, 1:18pm »

on Apr 11th, 2009, 12:04pm, Squigelyfox wrote:
I've seen Camel 8 times, Nov. Between 1975 and 2003. All brilliant and memorable! smiley

The most disappointing one for me was the very last one which was a bit of a shame.

The keyboard player at that show was using some really annoying sounds, especially in songs such as "Lady Fantasy".

I just remember walking out of that gig feeling very sad that it was the last Camel gig and also disappointed that I hadn't enjoyed it. Of course, Andrew was a bit below par as he was at the start of his illness but he played really well under the circumstances.

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