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« Reply #1875 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 07:32am »

I would like to wish each and everyone of you a really Happy New Year 2012!!!
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« Reply #1876 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 10:02am »

Thanks Sahara, and A Happy New Year to you and Everyone here too! smiley
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« Reply #1877 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 11:26am »

All the best to my Rajaz friends & the others that love Camel.

I have a feeling we are in for something special from Andy this coming year. User Image

Edited after being made to look silly.

Which isn't difficult at all, really. grin
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« Reply #1878 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 12:26pm »

on Dec 30th, 2011, 11:26am, FatOnes wrote:
All the best to my Rajaz friends & the others that love Camel.

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Well he's cutting it fine if he is grin. Maybe next year.

Happy New Year to all. smiley
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« Reply #1879 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 2:18pm »

Ammended. cool
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« Reply #1880 on: Dec 30th, 2011, 2:44pm »

I can just see the headlines.....

"Camel release new album, DVD and announce tour dates on 31st. December 2011"

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« Reply #1881 on: Jan 1st, 2012, 12:27pm »

on Dec 30th, 2011, 12:26pm, Merlin wrote:
Well he's cutting it fine if he is grin. Maybe next year.

Happy New Year to all. smiley


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« Reply #1882 on: Jan 6th, 2012, 3:36pm »

Here's an interview with Chris Rainbow (apparently from around the turn of the century) I found on one of the Camel lists. Quite interesting.


P: The marvellous The Cloak And Dagger Man is a real vocal gem. The entire
Stationary Traveller album is by many considered the best Camel's work. What
is the importance in your career of this magic 1984?

CR: 1984 was a good year for me in that I was involved with different and
varied session work. I was being asked to participate in many different
musical genres and had to think fast in the studio most of the time, because
clients didn't really want to spend hours constructing harmony arrangements
or vocal counterpoint. "Counterpoint" was one of the important lessons I
learned by osmosis through listening to Brian Wilson's work. By the time he
was constructing the Beachboys Today album, he was experimenting with
counterpoint at the end of each song, turning the outro into a separate
piece of music. The Camel sessions didn't really involve much harmony
counterpoint, but I guess it was a completely different kind of rock music
to that which I had previously worked on. I agree that the chorus in Cloak
and Dagger Man was dynamic, but that was as far as I was able to go in
contributing as much of the "Chris Rainbow" sound without compromising Andy
(Editors: Latimer) and Susan (Editors: Hoover)'s work. I really enjoyed the
Camel years though, but I think the band had run it's course in the UK by
the time I had joined. I was glad when Andy had his renaissance a few years
after we had done our last tour; he was right to move to California.

P: A Heart's Desire and Long Goodbyes show all your extraordinary vocal
attitude. Both of them are on a melodic key. Do you think your voice fits in
particular this musical style?

CR: Both these tracks were perfect for my style of delivery, and in
particular, Long Goodbyes is one of the best songs I have ever sung - it
would have been a great APP track too. I am writing for my new album, and
always tempted to write ballads of that genre, but it is dangerous to go too
far in that direction when you know that too many ballads make for a dull
album - played only occasionally.

P: We've seen your exciting and wonderful performance on Pressure Points
Camel live. What about your relationship with Latimer and his band, in the
past and nowadays?

CR: In the past we worked together for two tours and albums, and at the time
it worked well, but Andy was constantly re-defining Camel and the music, and
I guess my time with the band, like other members, was over by the end of
the last tour. I haven't communicated with Andy for some years now - not for
any negative reason - just because we're both doing different things now. I
would of course like to do something with Camel again before we get too
old!! Maybe on the production side.......?

P: On tour with Camel you've played also the keyboards, but in the studio
you've always been a vocalist only. Why didn't you obtain one more role in
studio as musician (on keyboard or guitar)?

CR: I didn't play more keyboards with Camel in the studio because there were
far greater players than me to do the job. Kit Watkins and Ton (Editors:
Scherpenzeel) were fantastic.

P: You don't appear on the latest Camel's productions. Did you listen to
Rajaz, the last Camel album, and, if yes, what about it?

CR: To be honest I haven't listened to Rajaz - I will have to get a copy
somehow! I haven't worked with Andy since we mixed the live video in Soho,
London back in the mid-80s. I thought the music was taking on a more sombre
mood both lyrically and musically by that time, and in retrospect I wouldn't
have enjoyed working in the studio for most of it; I prefer a lighter mood
in music, and Camel were beginning to dwell on the more negative aspects of
the human condition.
What I can honestly say about Camel is this: I learned a lot from Andy about
live work, and about dedication. He's one of the most accomplished British
guitarists ever to grace the stage, but he has been overlooked by the music
establishment for numerous reasons, including type of material recorded. He
became a true friend during the brief time I worked with him, and only
during soundcheck jams did we see the real guy - what a player; and what a
rocker!! I remember thinking (during my first Camel tour) that the audience
should see the soundcheck. He's a maestro. He also turned me onto Pat
Metheny, and thence to Lyle Mays - for that I thank him.
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« Reply #1883 on: Jan 6th, 2012, 5:55pm »

Thanks Metheny. An interesting read! smiley
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« Reply #1884 on: Jan 9th, 2012, 08:36am »

Wow, finally after more than 1 year an update on the offical camel website:
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and all the best for 2012

News coming soon


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« Reply #1885 on: Jan 9th, 2012, 10:17am »

Great! Happy new year is good enough for me. smiley
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« Reply #1886 on: Jan 10th, 2012, 03:53am »

Great! A sign of life smiley Nice to have some news coming too.
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« Reply #1887 on: Jan 10th, 2012, 04:03am »

Some more reading...Andy Latimer gets mentioned in this Steve Hackett interview:

http://alternativematter.net/interviews/interview-with-steve-hackett

Former Genesis guitarist Steve Hackett is one of the most influential and respected musicians within the progressive rock and metal world. He may not be as well-known as Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins, but nonetheless he has a fruitful solo career going on. His latest musical endeavor is an album, entitled Beyond The Shrouded Horizon. Itís a beautiful and soul-stirring piece of art. I had the pleasure of doing an interview with Steve and he gracefully answered all my questions about the new album, the possibility of a Genesis reunion and his views on contemporary guitar players..

Hi Steve and thank you for doing this interview. In all honesty, your new album, entitled Beyond The Shrouded Horizon, really gave me goose bumps while listening to it. Is this something youíve heard from more people?

Yes, people have been telling me that they like the diversity and impact of the album. Iíve really appreciated the feedback.

On your new album you touch a myriad of different musical styles, including classical guitar, blues, symphonic rock, folk music and whatnot. BTSH also has a timeless quality about it. Can you comment on this, please?

I like to explore music from all eras and also from different places around the world. Iím intrigued by the way different styles contrast. Also one kind of music can inform another. I donít see barriers in either time or place and I believe that good sounds from the past never go out of fashion.
What themes and subjects do you touch on BTSH and how do they connec t with the album title?

Most of the themes link with the albumís overall sense of a voyage into the unknown. Both A Place Called Freedom and Turn This Island Earth have the ďpioneeringĒ riff as they both suggest an exploration into a new environment. Between the Sunset and the Coconut Palms is also a journey beyond the known. The album title suggests rising above a fog or revealing a hidden truth as well, a theme explored metaphorically in Loch Lomond.

How did you approach the creational process of BTSH. What did you set out to achieve?

I let the music take me where it will and I allow for as much subconscious incubation as possible and I let logic take the helm if the imagination veers off course. When it gets to a certain point an overall theme or atmosphere begins to emerge.

Probably totally unrelated, but BTSH reminds me a lot of Camelís Dust And Dreams and Harbour Of Tears albums in terms of style, texture, atmosphere and arrangements. What are your thoughts on this and what do you think of Andy Latimer and Camel in general?

I think that Andy Latimer is a fine guitarist and that Camelís music has a lot of atmosphere and engaging musical ideas. Iím not particularly familiar with the albums you mention and Iíll check them out.

Iím not a musician myself, however creating a certain ďfeelĒ and ďtextureĒ seems to be far more important to you, than shredding a million miles away. In that regard you have more in common with David Gilmour (Pink Floyd), Robert Fripp (King Crimson) and the aforementioned Andy Latimer (Camel), than with more contemporary guitarists like John Petrucci (Dream Theater) and Misha Mansour (Periphery). Youíre pretty much from the same generation as Gilmour and Fripp, so to what extent is this a generation thing?

I guess we are all influenced by the era in which we develop our technique, and many musicians influence each other, but each of us creates our own style. The creative inspiration ultimately comes from within and the technique is developed independently.

What is your stance in the ongoing feel vs technique debate?

Emotion drives my playing most of the time, and I like to put all my feelings into every note. However, there are times when contrast is required, then technique comes strongly into play.

Iíve heard through the grape vine you were/are involved in a project with either Robert Fripp (King Crimson) or Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree). Whatís the naked truth here?

I have recently done some playing on Steven Wilsonís new album. I donít know if Robert Fripp has also played on it, but Steven has been working on some of Robertís material, so it is possible.

Youíre probably most known for being a former member of Genesis and just like Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins you have a fruitful career of your own. To what extent is the Genesis pretext a blessing or a curse for you?

The music of Genesis will always be a part of my influence and development and I embrace it in my shows and recordings. There is a rich seam to the Genesis music which stays with people throughout their lives. It will always be a part of mine.

If there would be reunion of Genesis in the classic seventies line-up would you be intested in participating or is that period a closed chapter in your life?

Iím always up for a reunion, but itís unlikely to happen.

Time for the final question. Whoís your favourite sketch in Monty Pythonís Flying Circus and why?

Itís the sketch where Michael Palin as a lavatory attendant wants to marry the daughter of Graham Chapmanís character.

Thank you very much for your time. If you have any final thoughts or remarks, please put them here:

Iíve enjoyed doing this interview Ray. Thank you very much.

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« Reply #1888 on: Jan 10th, 2012, 07:20am »

Thanks Sahara, nice read. smiley
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« Reply #1889 on: Jan 10th, 2012, 7:14pm »

nice interview smiley
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