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« Reply #45 on: Apr 26th, 2014, 06:08am »

I just discovered Casiopea, a Japanese jazz funk band, and I am stunned! Don't miss out on this if you love jazz funk:

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« Reply #46 on: Apr 26th, 2014, 09:08am »

Here they perform with another band from Japan, "The Square":



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« Reply #47 on: Jul 19th, 2015, 06:48am »

As I already said in the "what are you listening to" thread I purchased Esperanza Spalding's album 'Junjo' (2006) two days ago. I actually wanted 'Radio Music Society' but they didn't have it in the store so I ordered it; looking through the crates I found 'Junjo' and 'Chamber Music Society' and decided for 'Junjo' without listening to it. I have to add I listened to 30sec. snippets of all albums in advance; these short snippets can be misleading though.

Now, 'Junjo' is a pure jazz album: it's a jazz trio (double bass, piano, drums, plus Spalding's lead vocal); Esperanza Spalding sings only scat vocals without lyrics except for one song where she does sing in Portuguese; and musically this can be categorized as modern jazz. With all that this album seems to be "the odd one" in her discography since, at least from what I get out of reviews so far, the 2nd album already marks a change towards more variety both regarding instrumentation as well as stylistic influences: more funk, more soul, more latin added to the jazz, and electric bass, electric keyboards, guitar and brass added to the trio instruments. Plus lyrics in all songs.

So, in general I am partial to that latter kind of jazz music with more variety; those pure acoustic albums usually leave me with a feeling of "it's good music but I won't listen to it very often". But anyways, now I have this album and then again, a little bit of jazz is never wrong.

So.... I listened to it a few times and honestly, I'm a little lost what to make of it. In almost every track the pianist keeps throwing in highly dissonant riffs. He takes jazz harmonics beyond its most extreme forms straight into atonality. In other words, what he is doing is just a whisker short of free jazz. I don't mind if musicians enter "free" improvisation as long as I can trace the path they went there and they go back from there; but that guy just jumps into it and leaves me puzzled what he is trying to express at all. It seems all a little forced to me.

I wonder if this is a reflection of the current situation of jazz music in the 21st century: jazz has been around for more than a hundred years, constantly evolving, and once again it might be asking itself: where do we go now? So much has been there already so what is left that we didn't cover yet?
I have a feeling that the phenomenon of smooth jazz ("elevator music") had a bad impact on the jazz scene: smooth jazz tends to a) lots of electronic instruments, in particular keyboards, b) a lot of arrangement, song structure, and studio overdubs which c) restricts the room for improvisation, and finally d) a trend to leave jazz chords in favor of pop music chords. In extreme cases it turns into a genre of its own that is more or less anything but not jazz.
In turn, I see the fraction of those who reject smooth jazz turning to the radical opposites of it: in their book, jazz has to be all acoustic, it has to be "straight ahead" jazz (no song structure, just one basic scheme repeating all over) to gain a maximum of space for improvisation, and it has to demonstrate it doesn't try to please the listener so it will go most dissonant/"free" as possible. I don't think this is a good development because I can't see its benefits.

Now, I don't think Esperanza Spalding's trio were trying to distance themselves from anything, I rather see them just doing their own thing; but I would go so far as to claim they fell in the trap of current jazz. By any means, I'm looking forward to the subsequent albums (I'm planning to purchase all of them), from all I've heard so far they must be way more accessible.
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« Reply #48 on: Jul 19th, 2015, 10:25pm »

on Apr 26th, 2014, 06:08am, Schrottrocker wrote:
I just discovered Casiopea, a Japanese jazz funk band, and I am stunned! Don't miss out on this if you love jazz funk:



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« Reply #49 on: Sep 13th, 2015, 6:58pm »

on Jan 20th, 2014, 12:50am, HENRY wrote:
Big fan of jazz here.

I think I like just about any type or style of the genre, with a few exceptions. For example, I have to say that I have never acquired a taste for jazz flute. It always seems to sound like Muzak to me. undecided

Anyway, some of my favorites:

Louis Armstrong
Duke Ellington
Oscar Peterson
Charles Mingus
John Coltrane
Billie Holiday
Dave Brubeck
Wynton & Branford Marsalis
Pat Metheny
Keith Jarrett
Sonny Rollins
Charlie Parker
Wayne Shorter
Stanley Clarke
Weather Report
Brand X
Bill Bruford
Return To Forever
Diana Krall
Patricia Barber
The Bad Plus
Medeski Martin & Wood
John Scofield
Bill Frisell
Etc...etc...etc...

But my all time favorite jazz artist is undoubtedly Miles Davis.

I had a chance to see Miles live a couple of times, the last being within the month he passed away. But the first time was one of the greatest music experiences of my life. Even though he was well past his prime, he could still create incredible music.

There are so many variations and styles of jazz, it's quite difficult to pin it down to simply one type of music. To some extent, I find that those who don't like jazz usually identify it with a particular stereotype. Ultimately, I think it's a kind of music that needs to be explored.






You listed some great Jazz musicans/singers

I also love Diana Krall

I am still sad my favorite Jazz pianoist died last Sept, Joe Sample

I also have to include in my favorite jazz people, and I like all forms of jazz they include

Michael Brecker
Fats Waller
Christian Mcbride
Ray Brown
Jeff Hamilton
Jon Hendricks
Betty Carter
Eddie Jefferson
Carmen McRae
T. Monk
Herbie Mann

ect cool
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« Reply #50 on: Mar 14th, 2016, 6:37pm »

Man! I am listening to Lee Ritenour's 'Captain Fingers' for the first time, I love this album! Why did it take me so long to get notice of this record? This is almost like Steely Dan! Awesome music shocked cool
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« Reply #51 on: Mar 19th, 2016, 4:36pm »

I have to make a little promotion. smiley

De-Phazz released their new album 'Private' and surprise: it's all acoustic! They played in a reduced formation, on this album they are just a six members band: Pat Appleton sings all vocals, behind her there's a baritone saxophonist/bass clarinetist, guitar, rhodes, drums and double-bass. The album includes a couple old gems newly recorded such as 'No Jive', 'The Mambo Craze', 'Jeunesse dorée' and 'Something Special'.

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