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 poll_icon  Poll  Poll Question: Which band member's solo career is your favorite?
Anthony Phillips VotesVotesVotes 2 (4%)
Steve Hackett VotesVotesVotes 12 (27%)
Peter Gabriel VotesVotesVotes 13 (30%)
Tony Banks VotesVotesVotes 5 (11%)
Mike Rutherford VotesVotesVotes 1 (2%)
Phil Collins VotesVotesVotes 10 (23%)
Ray Wilson VotesImageVotes 0 (0%)
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« Reply #30 on: May 12th, 2017, 2:41pm »

on May 12th, 2017, 2:17pm, CyanideWand wrote:
It's my favorite of his albums. When it came out I didn't have time for it. I abandoned Phil in the 90's during the period of over-saturation when he was everywhere all the time.

But now that time has passed and I've given the album some proper listens, I am able to overlook the instrumentation on some of the songs because I can see the songs are in fact some of his best work. I think Phil is best when he is being confessional.


I am sorry if it sounds harsh because I am such a fan of many sides of him but as a songwriter, particularly as a lyricist I find him glib and when he tries to be more serious not so beliavable. I can understand why he relates to this abum so much, like you, I believe he is at his best when he is being personal but unlike you I don't think the material on the album was particularly strong and I cannot overhear the arrangements or lack thereof.
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« Reply #31 on: May 12th, 2017, 7:14pm »

In my view the confessional songs on both FV & HIMBG are far superior to the similar songs on Both Sides. When I read Phil's book I tried to understand why Both Sides (BShuh grin) meant so much to him but it didn't change my own opinion.
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« Reply #32 on: May 12th, 2017, 8:33pm »

on May 12th, 2017, 7:14pm, FeelItComing wrote:
In my view the confessional songs on both FV & HIMBG are far superior to the similar songs on Both Sides. When I read Phil's book I tried to understand why Both Sides (BShuh grin) meant so much to him but it didn't change my own opinion.


Agreed. What makes things special to some people may not to others. The beauty of music is in the ear of the beholder..
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« Reply #33 on: May 12th, 2017, 9:57pm »

on May 12th, 2017, 7:14pm, FeelItComing wrote:
When I read Phil's book I tried to understand why Both Sides (BShuh grin) meant so much to him but it didn't change my own opinion.


The thing that I really couldn't understand was the fact that Phil completely disregards Hello, I Must Be Going! in his book. He even said that he has very few memories of making the album.
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« Reply #34 on: May 13th, 2017, 12:28pm »

on May 12th, 2017, 2:27pm, Chessman wrote:
Had to vote for Steve of course. When it comes to solo stuff, and work ethic, he leaves the rest for dead imo.

I would dispute that, not your preference for Steve of course but the work ethic bit.
First of I don't think artistic value can be measured by the amount of work, if you happen to like an artist and he's prolific than you are just a happy fan, he is not necessarily a better artist but that's beside he point.
If you consider Phil's workload between 1980 and 2000, I would argue not many artists have pushed as hard.
Genesis albums, solo albums, movies, tv appearences, soundtracks, collaborations and he was quite in demand, globally and then the tours both solo and with Genesis which can hardly be compared with Steve's tours. Let's not forget the related promotion work and the exposure which again is hardly comparable to Steve's. He stopped, he sort of had to but when you list the amount of the things he has done and the sheer bulk of it, it's insane. Even the other members always acknowledged he was the absolute workhorse bordering on workaholic. Always on time, taping everything, listening to all shows and reharsals.
Let me be clear, I think it's great that Steve is still active and he is by no means a slacker but no, I don't think he leaves Phil behind in terms of work ethic.
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« Reply #35 on: May 13th, 2017, 6:42pm »

on May 12th, 2017, 9:57pm, rael1974 wrote:
The thing that I really couldn't understand was the fact that Phil completely disregards Hello, I Must Be Going! in his book. He even said that he has very few memories of making the album.


And that is sad, because it remains my second favourite of his albums. Not for You Can't Hurry Love but for the deep stuff. I don't have to list the tracks, do I?
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« Reply #36 on: May 14th, 2017, 03:26am »

on May 12th, 2017, 9:57pm, rael1974 wrote:
The thing that I really couldn't understand was the fact that Phil completely disregards Hello, I Must Be Going! in his book. He even said that he has very few memories of making the album.


i have the feeling that it was a rushed album, that he was somehow compelled to record due to the success of 'face value'. second albums by any artist or band often suffer from that.
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