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« Reply #15 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 07:09am »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 05:31am, peterpyser wrote:
I hope the reunion won't happen.
It would be pathetic seeing those grandfathers playing music from the previous century.
I prefer remembering them younger and capable.

Perhaps a bit harshly expressed but I agree, I think they had their say. So, who's drumming? wink
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 09:14am »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 07:09am, Fabrizio wrote:
So, who's drumming? wink


Chester or Phil's son with Phil on bongo drums singing harmonies with Peter, as they used to do. Or maybe Phil has actually recovered enough do the drumming himself if it is only one show and a short one - for instance half an hour.
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 09:53am »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 09:14am, AnythingNow wrote:
Chester or Phil's son with Phil on bongo drums singing harmonies with Peter, as they used to do. Or maybe Phil has actually recovered enough do the drumming himself if it is only one show and a short one - for instance half an hour.

Bongos!? You would like to see Phil playing that?
Now, I am not taking these rumors very seriously but let's pause for a moment, do you know how much Phil would have to practice, provided he can, to be able to play the old stuff again? Years ago he played the musical box with that band which I thought was incredibly gracious of him and he admitted being in trouble and he wasn't being self-depracating. And if Chester would play, would it still be a 5 man reunion?
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 10:02am »

I think it would be Nic Collins on drums. Nic has expressed interest in playing the Genesis songs, and I believe an interviewer recently brought up the idea to Phil and he didn't shoot it down. I don't remember where I read it, though.

As to what Phil will do, I'm not sure why this question stumps so many people, including Phil himself.

In the Genesis Revisited stuff that Hackett does, when a singer or musician isn't needed they are backstage.

So, Phil hangs out backstage,and when it's time for him to sing his songs, he comes out and the audience applauds. No big deal.

Peter can hang out backstage when Phil sings.

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« Reply #19 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 10:50am »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 10:02am, CyanideWand wrote:
I think it would be Nic Collins on drums. Nic has expressed interest in playing the Genesis songs, and I believe an interviewer recently brought up the idea to Phil and he didn't shoot it down. I don't remember where I read it, though.

As to what Phil will do, I'm not sure why this question stumps so many people, including Phil himself.

In the Genesis Revisited stuff that Hackett does, when a singer or musician isn't needed they are backstage.

So, Phil hangs out backstage,and when it's time for him to sing his songs, he comes out and the audience applauds. No big deal.

Peter can hang out backstage when Phil sings.


Comparisons with Steve's act don't really apply, do they? Those musicians are hired guns. As for Nic Collins, I am not a fan personally, in the sense that I don't know who he is as a musicians and the fact that he shares genes with Phil doesn't really mean much to me personally. I am sure he is a fine drummer, I've heard his version of keep it dark but he is not Phil, As for the scenario where our heroes hang out backstage, waiting for theit rurn, well, I could totally see why Phil or Peter couldn't be bothered with that.
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« Reply #20 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 10:59am »

So basically you are saying the reunion will never happen because they are egotistical twats.
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 11:00am »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 09:53am, Fabrizio wrote:
Bongos!? You would like to see Phil playing that?


Yes, I would! I enjoy this performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfiKfDvgQjw

on Mar 24th, 2017, 09:53am, Fabrizio wrote:
do you know how much Phil would have to practice, provided he can, to be able to play the old stuff again? Years ago he played the musical box with that band which I thought was incredibly gracious of him and he admitted being in trouble and he wasn't being self-depracating.


I'm not a drummer, so I can't judge, but are all Gabriel era songs equally demanding drummer-wise? As I wrote earlier, the guys should pick the songs the feel comfortable playing, and of the course the songs they manage to play. Are all songs equally hard to play as "The Musical Box"?

When it comes to his drumming capability, he played the drums on Going Back having the sticks taped to his arms. And I've read in an interview after that, that he think he has improved more since then.

on Mar 24th, 2017, 09:53am, Fabrizio wrote:
And if Chester would play, would it still be a 5 man reunion?


I don't mind guest musicians. The important thing is to see them back together again one last time. When Pink Floyd reunited in 2005 they had Jon Carin, Tim Renwick, Dick Parry and a backing vocalist on stage with them - although the camera's focus were on the actual group members. When it comes to Chester (and Daryl) they have been given much attention and appreciation by Phil, Tony and Mike (contrary to many other bands who hide their additional musicians), which made them somewhat like "official unofficial group members". Also Chester and Daryl were actually part of the 1982 reunion as well.
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 11:11am »

I think, given that Phil works with Nic, and Phil might want his son to have a unique experience, he is more likely to reunite with Genesis now that his son plays drums.
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 11:12am »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 10:59am, CyanideWand wrote:
So basically you are saying the reunion will never happen because they are egotistical twats.

Try self-respecting musicians with a long and succesful career behind them and a clear mark made in music history who, perhaps, at this stage of their lives, don't care about fans who want to see them no matter what. I mean, how far can we go in our desire to see them again and ignoring reality? Phil's son, Chester, bongos, sticks taped to the hands....What's next? Cousins, brother in law, wheelchairs? Play what you can, skip what you can't, have them on the stage while others play. Holograms in case a member kicks it? It's getting bizzare....
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 11:17am »

It's not bizarre at all. Especially given the fact that Nic Collins absolutely loves the old Genesis songs and drum parts, and has expressed that he would love to play them, problem solved.

If walking off stage and walking back on is such a hassle for them, then the real answer is they just don't want to do it because they are egotistical twats.

The logistics are in fact supremely easy.

They could even do one set with Peter, then Peter could leave and go home while Phil comes out and does the second set. No waiting back stage between songs.
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« Reply #25 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 2:58pm »

I don't understand why some folks are so precious about the thought that Genesis wouldn't still be Genesis if there were other musicians onstage with them.

Other than Rush, I can't think of a single long-running band that hasn't performed with additional or different musicians in live shows. The Pink Floyd example is probably the closest analogy, but even there all of the "extra" people on stage at Live 8 had already been in the live version of Pink Floyd already.

We've already seen Peter (and Steve a bit) joining up with the "current" 5-man Genesis in 1982, and Tony and Mike joining Phil's band at Knebworth in 1990, so for me it really isn't even a concern if there's another drummer and/or guitarist on stage if that what it takes to get Peter, Steve, Mike, Tony, and Phil back on stage together.
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 3:34pm »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 11:12am, Fabrizio wrote:
Try self-respecting musicians with a long and succesful career behind them and a clear mark made in music history who, perhaps, at this stage of their lives, don't care about fans who want to see them no matter what. I mean, how far can we go in our desire to see them again and ignoring reality?

And yet, Peter and Sting toured and played together this past year and put on a great show.
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on Mar 24th, 2017, 2:58pm, WinstonWolf wrote:
I don't understand why some folks are so precious about the thought that Genesis wouldn't still be Genesis if there were other musicians onstage with them.

I'm guessing that some folks just have an idealized perception of what the band should be, and any deviation from that ideal is considered heresy.
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« Reply #28 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 4:48pm »

on Mar 24th, 2017, 3:37pm, HENRY wrote:
I'm guessing that some folks just have an idealized perception of what the band should be, and any deviation from that ideal is considered heresy.


I guess, but I just don't get it. I grew up with (and am well on my way to growing old with) this band and if there is a chance they would get together and play music again I hope they do. I fully realize it isn't going to sound like it did 20-30-40 years ago, but I feel like wanting to piss on even the notion of them getting together just because the guys aren't young anymore and they might want or need to include other players is obnoxiously selfish.

It would easier for the uninterested fans to ignore a reunion than the hopeful fans to make one happen out of thin air.
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« Reply #29 on: Mar 24th, 2017, 9:03pm »

It's quite simple....don't go!

Not that it's ever going to happen anyway....
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