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« Reply #45 on: Aug 12th, 2016, 7:57pm »

Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading that. There is definitely nothing wrong with liking the more commercial tracks. As I heard someone say recently, there are no "guilty pleasures," just things we like.
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« Reply #46 on: Aug 13th, 2016, 01:03am »

In July 1973 when I was 11 years old and while I was in the Scouts, I was involved in a Gang Show and one of the ladies doing the make up brought in a heap of music papers for me to read between the sketches I was involved in. Among them was the March 17th edition of Sounds with colour poster of a strange looking bloke wearing a odd shaped box on his head. As he was someone I didn't recognise I quickly moved on to read whatever else was of interest to me in that paper.

That Christmas my parents bought me and my elder brother (Martin) a Dansette tape recorder and although we had a number of albums he started to borrow stuff from his school mates so we could do our part in "killing the music industry". Genesis Live was one such album and I recognised the singer on the cover as he was wearing that same strange looking box on his head.

There was a bit of a disagreement between us as he put the album on the record player that we shared as I had been listening to an Elton John album but being 4 years older Martin got his way and I stormed out of the room to the opening section of Watcher of the Skies. Martin must have been more impressed and duly recorded the album (or the first 45 minutes of it anyway) through a single microphone placed in front of one of the speakers onto the Dansette. We really knew how to Kill Music!

I guess it was a couple of weeks after that (February 1974 I would suggest) that I finally plucked up the courage to play Genesis Live. Oddly though I played The Knife over and over again until I ventured back one track at a time playing each one a number of times until I became familiar with the entire thing. I don't think I've ever listened to an album that way since.

But Genesis Live became my first Genesis purchase (as it was cheaper than the other albums) later in 1974 after Martin bought Selling England and Nursery Cryme and as many have said - the rest is history. A long and rewarding journey.
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« Reply #47 on: Aug 13th, 2016, 12:11pm »

Cool, MicSmith.
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« Reply #48 on: Aug 13th, 2016, 6:39pm »

My mother really liked Selling England, but that's not how I got into it (I'll tell my mother's story later, it's very nice). My best friend's mother really liked Kate Bush, and I started listening to her a lot on YouTube. Now, you know the suggested videos they give you? So I listened to "Don't Give Up", and REALLY liked it, soon I had listened to all of Peter's albums, and then I discovered he was part of Genesis, and that so was Phil Collins (a veritable household name around the world) AND that my mother liked them, so I gave them a try and today they're my favorite band. Now, my mother (and father, for that matter) grew up in Chile, and when my mother was around 13, a friend of hers traveled to england and brought back with him the newly released compact disc of Selling England, and she really liked it. Well, that's my story. Really nice thread! wink
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« Reply #49 on: Aug 25th, 2016, 04:27am »

For me it was 1970 (October or November - memory fades at my age). I went to see Argent at Brunel University and Genesis were the support band. I was hooked from then on. I guess these days it would have been called the Trespass Tour but they didn't give them names in those days. The set list, from memory, was Happy The Man, Stagnation, The Light, Twilight Alehouse, Musical Box and The Knife. Encore was Going Out To Get You. Such memories............
After that my friend and I used to buy Melody Maker each week and see where they were playing and follow them, sometimes seeing them Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings in the same weekend in the early days. I remember it always cost 10 shillings (50p) to get in until one day we were aghast that the price went up at one venue to One Pound!!! I think that was somewhere called Twynight Windrush Club or something like that in the basement of the shopping centre in High Wycombe.
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« Reply #50 on: Sep 1st, 2016, 6:01pm »

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I was in high school when We Can't Dance came out and really, really liked it. Then I bought Invisible Touch and realized that I had enjoyed songs like Tonight, Tonight, Tonight back when that came out but hadn't really ever looked into it further. Back then I was too young to buy any albums from anyone.

From there, every time my family went out of town I would buy a new CD at the record store. I bought them in a somewhat random order (whatever the store had in stock at the time) and seemed to like each one more than the last.

Now I could live perfectly happily with just Genesis music playing over and over again.
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« Reply #51 on: Sep 1st, 2016, 6:52pm »

on Jun 7th, 2012, 12:59pm, Merryman72 wrote:
As a young boy I absolutely loved the Tarzan film and soundtrack and I loved to watch the bonus features with Phil Collins and the music videos. I also really liked "In The Air Tonight", I think we had Face Value on a cassette tape. I also remember hearing "Solsbury Hill" on the radio once when I was about 10 and I enjoyed it and the track name stuck in my head, and we had the greatest hits of Mike and the Mechanics on CD which I rather enjoyed.

When my mum got the Platinum Collection for Christmas 2007, I heard "No Son Of Mine" and said "this sounds like Phil Collins!" I enjoyed that song and some of the ones following it, but I didn't hear the album again for a while. Then at school one day we had an activity in a French lesson where we had to ask various questions to people in the class, one of which was "what is your favourite band" (in French of course!! wink) I asked this question to my French teacher and he said "Genesis". I had recently got an iPod at this point, and so this event persuaded me to find our Platinum Collection and put it on my iPod. I quickly fell in love with "No Son of Mine", and eventually, after some listens, managed to fall in love with every other track on the three discs. After many many listens to that set, I bought A Trick Of The Tail and Three Sides Live from HMV and the rest is history tongue

It was with huge surprise that I discovered later that the initial lead singer was the guy who sang "Solsbury Hill", and that Mike was the Mike from Mike and the Mechanics!! grin


I have a similar story to yours. You and I must be similar in age because I was about one year old when the Tarzan film was released. It's cool to see that there are other fans that are around my age.

My story also began with the Tarzan film. It was my favorite movie as a toddler. I would watch it every day. Part of the reason I loved the movie so much was the soundtrack (my mother even has footage of me singing the entire soundtrack at the age of three). I was absolutely captivated by the singer's voice (which I didn't fully understand to be Phil Collin's voice at the time).

Around the same point in time, my parents played a lot of 70s and 80s music, whether it was on CD or the radio. By default, I was exposed to many of the hits from Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, and Mike + The Mechanics. Most of my favorite songs came from these artists. One of my earliest memories consists of hearing "In the Air Tonight" for the first time on the radio in my parents' car. I specifically remember the sudden adrenaline rush I felt at the famous drum fill in the song.

It wasn't until I was about thirteen years old that I found out about how all of these songs and artists were connected. This led me to explore as much as I could of their discography and history. The first album I ever bought was Invisible Touch on ITunes. Within the next three years I would listen to all of the mainstream albums from Genesis and Phil Collins (and Peter Gabriel's "So").

Around sixteen years of age, I tried listening to "A Trick of the Tail", my first progressive rock Genesis album (and progressive rock album in general). I didn't like it. I tried some other songs from that era (including multiple Gabriel era songs), but I didn't like them either. Eventually I came back for a second listening of this era and liked it. A few more listens would begin a love for this era too.

From about seventeen years old to my current time in college, I can say that I am a huge fan of both eras of Genesis and all of the solo careers that came from the band. Because of Genesis, I found a new favorite genre of music in progressive rock. I have become a big fan of Yes and King Crimson over the past year. I've also gotten into buying all of this music on vinyl in the past year.
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« Reply #52 on: Sep 1st, 2016, 9:12pm »

I really enjoy reading all these.
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« Reply #53 on: Sep 2nd, 2016, 4:44pm »

on Sep 1st, 2016, 6:52pm, rael1974 wrote:
I have a similar story to yours. You and I must be similar in age because I was about one year old when the Tarzan film was released. It's cool to see that there are other fans that are around my age.

My story also began with the Tarzan film. It was my favorite movie as a toddler. I would watch it every day. Part of the reason I loved the movie so much was the soundtrack (my mother even has footage of me singing the entire soundtrack at the age of three). I was absolutely captivated by the singer's voice (which I didn't fully understand to be Phil Collin's voice at the time).

Around the same point in time, my parents played a lot of 70s and 80s music, whether it was on CD or the radio. By default, I was exposed to many of the hits from Genesis, Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins, and Mike + The Mechanics. Most of my favorite songs came from these artists. One of my earliest memories consists of hearing "In the Air Tonight" for the first time on the radio in my parents' car. I specifically remember the sudden adrenaline rush I felt at the famous drum fill in the song.

It wasn't until I was about thirteen years old that I found out about how all of these songs and artists were connected. This led me to explore as much as I could of their discography and history. The first album I ever bought was Invisible Touch on ITunes. Within the next three years I would listen to all of the mainstream albums from Genesis and Phil Collins (and Peter Gabriel's "So").

Around sixteen years of age, I tried listening to "A Trick of the Tail", my first progressive rock Genesis album (and progressive rock album in general). I didn't like it. I tried some other songs from that era (including multiple Gabriel era songs), but I didn't like them either. Eventually I came back for a second listening of this era and liked it. A few more listens would begin a love for this era too.

From about seventeen years old to my current time in college, I can say that I am a huge fan of both eras of Genesis and all of the solo careers that came from the band. Because of Genesis, I found a new favorite genre of music in progressive rock. I have become a big fan of Yes and King Crimson over the past year. I've also gotten into buying all of this music on vinyl in the past year.


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I was four years old when Tarzan came out. I seem to remember it being one of the first DVDs we ever got (Gasp! DVDs! So modern!) grin
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« Reply #54 on: Sep 2nd, 2016, 7:43pm »

I was just saying to my wife a couple of days ago that there are probably fans who started with Tarzan. Glad you guys did!
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on Aug 25th, 2016, 04:27am, Brunel-I was there wrote:
For me it was 1970 (October or November - memory fades at my age). I went to see Argent at Brunel University and Genesis were the support band. I was hooked from then on. I guess these days it would have been called the Trespass Tour but they didn't give them names in those days. The set list, from memory, was Happy The Man, Stagnation, The Light, Twilight Alehouse, Musical Box and The Knife. Encore was Going Out To Get You. Such memories............
After that my friend and I used to buy Melody Maker each week and see where they were playing and follow them, sometimes seeing them Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings in the same weekend in the early days. I remember it always cost 10 shillings (50p) to get in until one day we were aghast that the price went up at one venue to One Pound!!! I think that was somewhere called Twynight Windrush Club or something like that in the basement of the shopping centre in High Wycombe.
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So was the Argent support gig played as a four piece or five can you recall?

If you have any other recollections of the early live career of Genesis I'm sure lots of people on here would love to read them.

How certain are you that they played Happy the Man? Although there it s obviously a live recording from March 1971, this is the first time I believe that song has been suggested as being part of the live set before Steve joined the band. There is precious little evidence to suggest either way but given you saw the band many times in 70/71 could you be getting this mixed up with later gigs after Steve joined?
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« Reply #56 on: Nov 23rd, 2017, 2:35pm »

I always enjoy reading peoples accounts of how they got into music (Genesis or otherwise). So, having found this thread, I’d like to contribute. Firstly I’ll paste my post from the ‘The Song That Hooked You In’ thread, as it begins my tale nicely...

“I was a precocious teen, aged 14 in October 1991, who would listen to the UK Top 40 singles charts on a Sunday afternoon and evening between 4 - 7pm. One Sunday night, the DJ made a big deal about the comeback of a band called Genesis who crashed into the Top 10. A moments silence... And then the tick tick of a clock. Then a heart beat. Then the strange groaning noise. And then Phil came in and it built and built and built. The seeds were sewn.

My musical provenance before that time was already steeped in Prog. My dad and my uncle brought me up on the favourite bands of their youth, including Yes and Rush. My year zero was 1988 as a 10/11 year old, a pop crush on Tiffany, dalliances with Bros and Jacko. Then I found my first true love: rock music. Def Leppard and Iron Maiden became firm favourites (and still are). I also got into what probably remains my favourite band: It Bites. The latter were my first gig in December 1989 at Bradford St George’s Hall with pater and my unc.

But even at that period of the late 80s, I recall the ubiquity of the “Invisible Touch” singles on the radio. I think that’s where it started, albeit at an unconscious level. I recall playing my auntie’s vinyl copy of “IT” on a rare visit to her home in Brighton. That was perhaps before ‘NSOM’. But it was the first single from “We Can’t Dance” that really hooked me. Just into my teens I was beginning to come to terms with and reflect on my parents divorce in the early 80s. This, along with a strained relationship with my step-father, meant that the lyrical content (and promo video) for ‘NSOM’ have always had a real personal resonance with me. It can still choke me up...”

Building on this I think it was 1992 before I actually acquired my first Genesis product. I THINK it was probably a second hand CD copy of “We Can’t Dance” from my local indoor market in Wakefield, West Yorkshire. This was one of several record shops in the city I was frequently visiting at this time. As a strange side step though - and the reason why I was a staunch Gabrielite for over two decades before falling for the four and three man era properly - it was a cassette I leant from a school mate’s dad.Now, this tape has achieved mythical status in my head. It has long since left my ownership (I don’t know what happened to it) and have never been able to track down any reference to it. I thought I might find it on the pages of Discogs when I happened upon the site several years ago. But, having scoured all 250 listings, still to no avail. I’m pretty sure it was an official release. I vividly recall the cassette inlay being a dark bluey-green colour with a five-man era photo of the band on the cover. It seemed to be from the 70s as I don’t recall any 80s material on it. I can’t remember the exact tracklisting but recall that it featured titles like ‘Burning Rope’, ‘Match of the Day’, ‘The Musical Box’, and I’m pretty sure ‘Dancing With The Moonlit Knight’ was on there too. (Does this ring any bells with folk?)

Anyway, I became obsessed with this tape. Safe to say it never found it’s way back to the original owner. I explicitly remember listening to the tape in my dad’s car stereo one rainy Saturday afternoon in 1992. I was on my own in the car, which was parked up outside a model/toy shop in Wakefield, which is sadly no longer there. I always think of this memory when I think of Genesis. I think this one memory is why I always associate Genesis with rain. (Imagine my strange feeling of synchronicity when, having listened to the 1976-91 canon so intently for the last two months, I realised just how elemental Genesis are both musically and in their lyrics (all those references to different kinds of weather, etc.) Ever since then, back in 1992, I enjoy listening to Genesis most while walking in the rain.

So the Gabriel-era heavy nature of the mythical cassette is the reason I got into the 1969-1975 canon first. In those pre-internet days I relied on the audio-visual department in my local library as well as Wakefield’s record shops. Despite both my dad and my uncle being proggers, neither were schooled in Genesis beyond being familiar with ‘IKWIL’. I’m self trained. I acquired “Foxtrot” in CD first (the pre-1994 master version), then “Selling England”. I lived with these four items (the cassette, “WCD”, “SEBTP” and “Foxtrot”) for a year or so before going any further. In 1994 I replaced the latter two with the then new remasters, as well as adding “Trespass”, “Nursery Cryme” and (eventually) “Lamb” to my collection. Actually, I think I also had “IT” on CD too because I absolutely LOVED ‘The Brazilian’. But Gabriel was the man for me for years...
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« Reply #57 on: Nov 25th, 2017, 11:40am »

1976, I was a Moody Blues fan for about a year already, the friend who introduced me said "if you like them, you should like Genesis". I Knew IKWIL, but wasn't convinced. Around that time I visited another friend, Mark Chapman, (who's never been to NY as far as I know!) and he was playing something with church orgen all over it, I asked, it was Genesis, but I don't know what, again unmoved. Roll forward to April 1978, FYFM hit the charts, I quite liked it, a friend taped ATTWT for me, but again, it didn't move me.

1979: Radio 1's Tommy Vance was to play Steve Hackett's Reading festival show on his rock hour. I knew he had been in Genesis, so I taped it. I WAS moved, and obtained some of his stuff, but still didn't know of any Genesis I liked. Then the Moodies introducing friend invited me round to listen to The Lamb. And the rest, as they say, is history! wink
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« Reply #58 on: Nov 27th, 2017, 06:21am »

on Nov 23rd, 2017, 2:35pm, ImperialSquonk wrote:
this tape has achieved mythical status in my head. I’m pretty sure it was an official release. (Does this ring any bells with folk?)


Apart from the more recent official compilations, plus Rock Theatre and The Story of Genesis, I can't think of any others, unless there were ones I was never aware of that were released in other territories. Given the mix of stuff you recall being on that tape, I'm inclined to think your friend's dad or someone he knew did a professional-looking mock-up cover for a home-made compilation. My brother and I and other people I knew used to do that a lot.

The aforementioned older brother is a big part of how I got into Genesis, as he got put onto them by friends and in turn I heard him playing them, but I can't recall any specific moment until hearing The Musical Box on a radio rock show in about 1977, and it was specifically the closing section that really got my attention, as I've described in the Songs That Hooked You In thread. A different week, the same show played Carpet Crawlers and without knowing it my journey to full-on Genesis fandom was well under way.

At home my brother did his bit by playing a mix of the older stuff and the then new album ATTWT. I'd thought FYFM was okay, but the one that really made me sit up and take notice on the album was Down & Out. Right from when he bought it and played it for the first time, that track really appealed to me. Of the older stuff, the ones that were seeping into my consciousness were Watcher, Firth and especially the second part of The Waiting Room - I'm sure many here will be mildly surprised maybe even incredulous at the latter, but it really clicked with me and to this day it's still one of my favourite pieces of rock music.

You'll note that all the mentioned songs are very different, and I'm certain this was part of what was appealing to me, the breadth and variety of their work being one of the main things that was getting through to me by osmosis. By the release of Duke I was well and truly a fan for life, and got to go to my first Genesis gigs - see the recent Duke thread for continuation of the story if interested enough!
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« Reply #59 on: Dec 20th, 2017, 11:14am »

Great reads, all! I don't know why but I've always enjoyed hearing about people's journeys to fandom!


My story with Genesis begins in 1986, when I was in Kindergarten, right during the time Invisible Touch came out. My parents always listened to the hits radio station in the Chicago area, and cos of that I became a fan of lots of different 80's music. The first Genesis (specifically) song I have an actual memory of hearing is Man on The Corner. I recall hearing those opening chords come on as I was sitting in the back of our car. At the time, as we know, Phil Collins and Genesis were all over the radio, so I was hearing the likes of ITAT, One More Night, That's All, and Just about everything from Invisible Touch ALL the time! The first time I got a Genesis album was around 1991 when I was shopping with my mom at a music store. I was in about 5th grade or so, so I didn't know any band names yet-as I was new to pop music, and only mainly listened to MC Hammer at the time. She would suggest things to me, and sing the songs the artists were known for. Ultimately I chose Invisible Touch. It was then that my dad told me what all songs they did-and I was shocked that all those songs I liked were by the same group. He also then told me that Phil was a drummer as well as the singer-which I thought was awesome! So, the cassette tape of IT was my first Genesis purchase.

After a few years I got into other things, but then one night in 8th grade, I saw a commercial for a Chicago radio station-on which they played a clip of Phil's Take Me Home video, which really intrigued me. I was hooked as a fan from that day. I started by getting some of Phil's albums but I soon embarked on my journey into Genesis as well. Having gotten the first Way We Walk live CD when I was in 7th grade (the first CD I ever bought), In 8th grade I finally bought and gave a full listen to "the longs." It was then that my dad told me that Peter Gabriel used to be the singer! So, interested in hearing more of that era, I bought Seconds Out-thinking it wasn't a live album, but a greatest hits collection! So I began getting the studio album CDs, in no particular order-simply based on which ones had the most of what I'd enjoyed from those live albums. The first one I bought was Genesis-and I played it constantly for months! grin Then my mom gave me her copy of WCD, and I played only THAT for months! To this day, WCD is actually my favorite.

Over the several years between 8th grade and thru high school, I gradually collected the albums in Genesis back catalogue-one by one of course, cos I was a kid and didn't have that much $. I usually bought them from Best Buy, since that was the only place that stocked their whole catalog of the '94 remasters at the time. The albums that had songs I liked from the live albums-such as Genesis, ATOTT, SEBTP etc.-were the first ones I bought. Other albums, like Abacab and Duke were ones I took a gamble and bought without knowing any of the songs on there! I was super excited when CAS came out while I was in High School, but the excitement was tarnished abit when the album didn't do very well and Phil wasn't involved. Still, though the album grew on me over the years-and today, I wished they had given Ray Wilson another shot. In the later years before I started college, there were a couple albums I didn't yet have, like Live and Trespass, where at one point I just figured I wouldn't bother getting them. But a friend of mine said one day in my senior year in High School "Well, you have all the others-why not just get that one, if for no other reason than to complete the collection?" I'm glad I listened to him!

When the Genesis Archive boxsets came out in 1999 and 2001 I was super excited! There was some great stuff on there and at the time I only had the albums so I was very interested in getting to hear their non-album tracks. This was before internet was a common thing, before social media or smartphones or YouTube of course-so I didn't know Archive #2 was going to come out the year after the first-the only way to find that stuff out back then was to shop at the music store mostly. So when I finally saw it in the music store, I was super excited, and even though it was somewhere over $50 or so, I bought it on the spot! I had never heard any of the many B-sides included on that release, and to me it was like getting a whole new Genesis album! I remember when I went back to college that next semester, disc 1 of Archive #2 was about ALL I played for months!! I enjoyed listening to it more than any other release I'd gotten for years-it reminded me of the almost-forgotten excitement I felt with my first few Genesis album purchases way back in 8th grade.

In 2007 I went to see Genesis live in Chicago for the first (and likely only) time during their reunion tour, which I was ecstatic about since I was so bummed that Phil Collins left Genesis RIGHT after I became a fan! I of course then preordered all of the boxsets, being super excited for them for the couple years leading up to their release, and I still love listening to them in 5.1 surround to this day, whenever I can!



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