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« Reply #15 on: Nov 28th, 2014, 10:11pm »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 7:06pm, Dr. John wrote:
Not much love for Chic here it appears - great funk band and very influential I think.

Oh yeah, they certainly had an impact in their heyday, but I wonder if they have enough of a legacy for recognition into the HOF.
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« Reply #16 on: Nov 29th, 2014, 06:11am »

I just find it astounding that none of Yes, Deep Purple or Iron Maiden have been considered. All three of them are hugely influential in their respective genres. Yes was a massive progressive rock pioneer. Deep Purple are considered one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time, and the opening riff in Smoke On The Water is probably the most well-known riff in rock music history. And Iron Maiden are easily heavy metal's most successful group, leading the NWOBHM movement and having played over 2000 live shows. All three of them should have been inducted into the Hall Of Fame since the first years they were eligible, in my opinion.
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« Reply #17 on: Nov 29th, 2014, 06:18am »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 9:55pm, HENRY wrote:
Kraftwerk have had a prominent level of recognition and success in North America, and their role in pioneering the subsequent synth era has been countlessly referred to for many years. I'd be surprised if they didn't get inducted.

Let's hope you're right. They certainly deserve it.
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 29th, 2014, 06:23am »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 10:11pm, HENRY wrote:
Oh yeah, they certainly had an impact in their heyday, but I wonder if they have enough of a legacy for recognition into the HOF.

They don’t. Known only for “Le Freak”, here at least. If the RRHOF wants more deserving disco acts, the Bee Gees & the Jacksons are in already.

If Nile Rodgers individually was nominated he’d probably fare much better than Chic, given his work with other artists. Not keen on him myself, but he was certainly influential, if only in making everyone from Bowie to Duran Duran sound exactly like Nile Rodgers - & that's no mean feat, though whether it's commendable is another matter rolleyes
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« Reply #19 on: Nov 29th, 2014, 06:34am »

on Nov 29th, 2014, 06:11am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
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And Iron Maiden are easily heavy metal's most successful group...


More successful than Black Sabbath?
Not by a long shot.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 29th, 2014, 11:42am »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 5:40pm, Schrottrocker wrote:
I'm surprised you never heard of Stevie Ray Vaughan before? He is one of the very few blues guitarists whose name is well-known outside of blues circles. I knew him by name because I "heard of him" long before I ever knew any of his songs, that I got covered when I purchased the From Dusk Till Dawn soundtrack.

We had the discussion about the relevance of the RRHOF before, naturally everybody whose favourite artists are not inducted will claim he doesn't give a damn about that institution. grin Anyways, I wonder how this institution turned into something people hang so much emotions on. Was it the music press that made this museum such a myth (the olymp of rock and pop music)?


Although I've heard of SRV, his profile in the UK is very low. Rightly or wrongly!
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« Reply #21 on: Nov 29th, 2014, 11:44am »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 3:44pm, HENRY wrote:
Ah well, the annual handwringing over the R&RHOF inductees is in full swing I see, so I suppose it's time for me to offer up my yearly rant. Alrighty then...

The R&RHOF is essentially a product and licence of Rolling Stone magazine. There is no grand and sacred doctrine which guides the selection process beyond a few objective stipulations. The approach for choosing candidates revolves largely around the American music scene in history, influence, and popularity. It's not about what or who you think is deserving of merit. Anyone who was around in the 70's & 80's and followed RS to any extent shouldn't be surprised by the typical nominees that come up for possible induction. It's largely about American music culture, so that Italian prog band from the 70's you think is beyond brilliant doesn't stand a snowflake's chance in hell of being recognized.

As far as this year's nominees go, it's really not too bad of a group. My personal top picks would be The Marvelettes, The Spinners, Lou Reed, and The Smiths, although I'm thinking that last one might not make it this time around. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sting, Stevie Ray and War getting in.

I think a lot of people make too much of this. Sure, it's nice to see one's favorite band or performer get recognized in this way, but it's not really a big deal.


All valid points, I would agree, but one glaring omission given their impact on American Music Culture remains: The Moody Blues. Doesn't bother me, but it sure seems odd.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 2nd, 2014, 05:28am »

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The Paul Butterfield Blues Band were a major influence on Mr Hackett and a damn fine band of their time. At least as deserving as some of the sh!t that gets into the HoF these days.



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« Reply #23 on: Dec 2nd, 2014, 06:37am »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 7:06pm, Dr. John wrote:
Not much love for Chic here it appears - great funk band and very influential I think.


Perhaps not surprising rolleyes, however I agree with you Dr John, they had a very distinct and influential sound and Bernard Edwards was a monster bass player.
Just for the record they were known for a lot more than just 'Le Freak' in the UK
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 2nd, 2014, 07:50am »

on Dec 2nd, 2014, 06:37am, The Cosmic Lawnmower wrote:
Perhaps not surprising rolleyes, however I agree with you Dr John, they had a very distinct and influential sound and Bernard Edwards was a monster bass player.
Just for the record they were known for a lot more than just 'Le Freak' in the UK

Sorry, that was me being inaccurate. I should have said Chic were known for producing one memorable song (“Le Freak”) plus a load of others that all sounded exactly the same, under their own name & that of other acts like Sister Sledge.
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« Reply #25 on: Dec 2nd, 2014, 10:57am »

on Nov 29th, 2014, 11:44am, foxfeeder wrote:
All valid points, I would agree, but one glaring omission given their impact on American Music Culture remains: The Moody Blues. Doesn't bother me, but it sure seems odd.

Not odd at all if you're familiar with Rolling Stone and the prevailing American music culture of the late 60's and 70's.

Simply put, prog/symphonic/art rock, or whatever you want to call it, just didn't have as high a profile in American music culture as more blues based and mainstream pop/rock music. Prog was a more European thing, and most prog bands didn't achieve much more than cult status over here. Plus, there was a certain distain for anything prog in the American music media. Arguably the two biggest and most influential magazines of the time, Rolling Stone and Creem, rarely featured prog related bands or music, although Circus magazine did have the occasional article whenever certain bands released new albums or toured.

There was a story circulating a few years ago regarding the selection process for the RRHOF (not sure if it is actually true). The Moody Blues were apparently being considered for nomination, but Jann Wenner, RS co-founder & publisher, laughed off the suggestion. Seems he personally had no interest in the band and didn't view them as worthy of recognition.

The strange thing is, The Moody Blues did have enough of a following in North America to allow them to do reasonably well from a commercial standpoint, having a couple of No. 1 albums plus the fairly popular Days Of Future Past. Despite that, their representation in the media at the time was relatively low.

I do agree that they deserve the recognition, along with bands like King Crimson, Yes, and ELP, but it might take a little while for the powers that be to come around to that realization.
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 3rd, 2014, 07:13am »

on Dec 2nd, 2014, 07:50am, boredatwork wrote:
Sorry, that was me being inaccurate. I should have said Chic were known for producing one memorable song (“Le Freak”) plus a load of others that all sounded exactly the same, under their own name & that of other acts like Sister Sledge.


So I'm guessing you don't much like Chic then, fair enough, but to be clear they had a good little run of hits in the UK between Nov '77 & Dec '79, whether any particular song was 'memorable' is surely subjective, but I would have thought most people would at least be aware of 'Good Times' as well.

Dance Dance Dance (Yowsah Yowsah Yowsah) No6
Everybody Dance No9
Le Freak No7
I Want Your Love No4
Good Times No5
My Forbidden Lover No15
My Feet Keep Dancing No21

Whether they all sound exactly the same is again down to the listeners ear, if it's not your bag I can understand how it might, to me they're all different but have the overall Chic sound.
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« Reply #27 on: Dec 3rd, 2014, 1:45pm »

on Dec 3rd, 2014, 07:13am, The Cosmic Lawnmower wrote:
So I'm guessing you don't much like Chic then, fair enough, but to be clear they had a good little run of hits in the UK between Nov '77 & Dec '79, whether any particular song was 'memorable' is surely subjective, but I would have thought most people would at least be aware of 'Good Times' as well.

Dance Dance Dance (Yowsah Yowsah Yowsah) No6
Everybody Dance No9
Le Freak No7
I Want Your Love No4
Good Times No5
My Forbidden Lover No15
My Feet Keep Dancing No21

Whether they all sound exactly the same is again down to the listeners ear, if it's not your bag I can understand how it might, to me they're all different but have the overall Chic sound.

"Good Times" was a humungous (#1) hit in the USA. In its day it was as ubiquitous a dance party song as "Celebrate" or "Staying Alive" or "Dancing Queen."
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« Reply #28 on: Dec 3rd, 2014, 2:38pm »

on Dec 3rd, 2014, 07:13am, The Cosmic Lawnmower wrote:
So I'm guessing you don't much like Chic then, fair enough, but to be clear they had a good little run of hits in the UK between Nov '77 & Dec '79, whether any particular song was 'memorable' is surely subjective, but I would have thought most people would at least be aware of 'Good Times' as well.

Dance Dance Dance (Yowsah Yowsah Yowsah) No6
Everybody Dance No9
Le Freak No7
I Want Your Love No4
Good Times No5
My Forbidden Lover No15
My Feet Keep Dancing No21

Whether they all sound exactly the same is again down to the listeners ear, if it's not your bag I can understand how it might, to me they're all different but have the overall Chic sound.

On seeing the song titles I vaguely remember snatches from a couple of them & “Lost in Music”(?) but I’d be hard put to identify any apart from “Le Freak”. Surprised to hear “Good Times” was as big a hit as those other 3 Dust listed.
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« Reply #29 on: Dec 3rd, 2014, 6:06pm »

on Dec 3rd, 2014, 2:38pm, boredatwork wrote:
“Lost in Music”


Wasn't that Shalamar or some other group?
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