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xx Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 2015 fan poll
« Thread started on: Nov 26th, 2014, 07:29am »

Has anyone voted for the 2015 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees?:
http://rockhall.com/voting/2015-rock-hall-nominees-fan-vote/

As usual 80% of them are American, but itís a pleasant surprise to see the Smiths & Kraftwerk nominated at last. shocked
If they both get in, Iíll take the RRHOF a little more seriously in future.

The other non-American nominee - Sting - is less surprising, but all 3 get my vote.
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 26th, 2014, 10:27am »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 07:29am, boredatwork wrote:
Has anyone voted for the 2015 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees?:
http://rockhall.com/voting/2015-rock-hall-nominees-fan-vote/

As usual 80% of them are American, but itís a pleasant surprise to see the Smiths & Kraftwerk nominated at last. shocked
If they both get in, Iíll take the RRHOF a little more seriously in future.

The other non-American nominee - Sting - is less surprising, but all 3 get my vote.


Who the hell are the Paul Butterfield Blues Band?

Sound like a "turn" down local working men's club.....

I must be getting old but also WTF have Chic to do with Rock and Roll?

I will never take them seriously at all...and nor will other Deep Purple fans wink

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 26th, 2014, 10:53am »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 10:27am, John Wilkinson wrote:
Who the hell are the Paul Butterfield Blues Band?

Sound like a "turn" down local working men's club.....


Iíd never heard of them either, but I get the impression that any working men's club band in America would be admitted in preference to a genuinely pioneering European band like Kraftwerk......

As for Chic, theyíve been nominated in previous years - & rejected grin
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 26th, 2014, 11:19am »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 10:27am, John Wilkinson wrote:
Who the hell are the Paul Butterfield Blues Band?

Sound like a "turn" down local working men's club.....

I must be getting old but also WTF have Chic to do with Rock and Roll?

I will never take them seriously at all...and nor will other Deep Purple fans wink

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You're kidding, right? The opening track & title track of Steve Hackett's "Blues with a feeling" album are covers of tracks from one of their albums (which, in turn etc......). Comin' home to the Blues name checks him.

Agree about Chic though! wink

PS: The Spinners = The Detroit Spiiners in the UK. Not the folk guys with the white jumpers! grin
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 26th, 2014, 12:16pm »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 10:27am, John Wilkinson wrote:
Who the hell are the Paul Butterfield Blues Band?

Sound like a "turn" down local working men's club.....

I must be getting old but also WTF have Chic to do with Rock and Roll?

I will never take them seriously at all...and nor will other Deep Purple fans wink

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The Paul Butterfield Blues Band was around here in the states in the mid '60s. They were somewhat popular in England as well, after joining forces with John Mayall and The Bluesbreakers.

If you've heard of Elvin Bishop ("Fooled Around And Fell In Love"), he too was in the Paul Butterfield band.

Saxophone player, David Sanborn, also was in the band.

Paul Butterfield also joined The Band onstage for a couple of numbers during "The Last Waltz," their final performance together.
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 26th, 2014, 12:26pm »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 10:27am, John Wilkinson wrote:
Who the hell are the Paul Butterfield Blues Band?

Sound like a "turn" down local working men's club.....

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Hugely popular American blues band during the 1960s, particularly the first two albums when the lineup featured guitarists Mike Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop trading off solos with Butterfield on harmonica.
Butterfield was highly respected for his powerful sound, very much in the vein of blues legends Little Walter and Jr. Wells.
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 26th, 2014, 3:20pm »

No Yes, Deep Purple, or Iron Maiden. Again.

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« Reply #7 on: Nov 27th, 2014, 09:19am »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 11:19am, foxfeeder wrote:
You're kidding, right? The opening track & title track of Steve Hackett's "Blues with a feeling" album are covers of tracks from one of their albums (which, in turn etc......). Comin' home to the Blues name checks him.

Agree about Chic though! wink

PS: The Spinners = The Detroit Spiiners in the UK. Not the folk guys with the white jumpers! grin


I am enlightened thanks guys.... kiss

Still don't like the Blues though and "Blues With A Feeling" is second only to "Till We Have Faces" on my all time worst Steve albums..... rolleyes lipsrsealed

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« Reply #8 on: Nov 27th, 2014, 09:21am »

on Nov 26th, 2014, 3:20pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
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TOTALLY AGREE....

Shameful that these ignored AGAIN....... but Mr Blackmore said he wouldn't attend even if Purple got inducted....... rolleyes

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 27th, 2014, 5:15pm »

I don't know if the online choices carry any weight but I voted for Kraftwerk and Paul Butterfield.
If I had cast a third vote, it would have gone to SRV but I thought he'll get enough votes from others, he doesn't need my support.
After I clicked, I noted Stevie Ray was comfortably in the lead while, predictably, Kraftwerk was near the bottom.
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 28th, 2014, 3:44pm »

Ah well, the annual handwringing over the R&RHOF inductees is in full swing I see, so I suppose it's time for me to offer up my yearly rant. Alrighty then...

The R&RHOF is essentially a product and licence of Rolling Stone magazine. There is no grand and sacred doctrine which guides the selection process beyond a few objective stipulations. The approach for choosing candidates revolves largely around the American music scene in history, influence, and popularity. It's not about what or who you think is deserving of merit. Anyone who was around in the 70's & 80's and followed RS to any extent shouldn't be surprised by the typical nominees that come up for possible induction. It's largely about American music culture, so that Italian prog band from the 70's you think is beyond brilliant doesn't stand a snowflake's chance in hell of being recognized.

As far as this year's nominees go, it's really not too bad of a group. My personal top picks would be The Marvelettes, The Spinners, Lou Reed, and The Smiths, although I'm thinking that last one might not make it this time around. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sting, Stevie Ray and War getting in.

I think a lot of people make too much of this. Sure, it's nice to see one's favorite band or performer get recognized in this way, but it's not really a big deal.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 28th, 2014, 5:20pm »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 3:44pm, HENRY wrote:
The R&RHOF is essentially a product and licence of Rolling Stone magazine. There is no grand and sacred doctrine which guides the selection process beyond a few objective stipulations. The approach for choosing candidates revolves largely around the American music scene in history, influence, and popularity. It's not about what or who you think is deserving of merit. Anyone who was around in the 70's & 80's and followed RS to any extent shouldn't be surprised by the typical nominees that come up for possible induction. It's largely about American music culture, so that Italian prog band from the 70's you think is beyond brilliant doesn't stand a snowflake's chance in hell of being recognized.....


..... and as for that vastly influential, important & pioneering but - fatally for their chances in this context - German synth band, well they certainly havenít. Iím amazed they even got nominated.

I only became aware of the RRHOF when I read about Genesis being admitted a couple of years back. They (the band) & PG individually this year did seem to set great store by getting in, perhaps because any non-Americans have to be exceptionally meritorious to make it?

I canít recall ever hearing of Stevie Ray Vaughan or Paul Butterfield. Joan Jett, yes. And of course Lou Reed, who must be a dead cert to get in now (no pun intended!).

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« Reply #12 on: Nov 28th, 2014, 5:40pm »

I'm surprised you never heard of Stevie Ray Vaughan before? He is one of the very few blues guitarists whose name is well-known outside of blues circles. I knew him by name because I "heard of him" long before I ever knew any of his songs, that I got covered when I purchased the From Dusk Till Dawn soundtrack.

We had the discussion about the relevance of the RRHOF before, naturally everybody whose favourite artists are not inducted will claim he doesn't give a damn about that institution. grin Anyways, I wonder how this institution turned into something people hang so much emotions on. Was it the music press that made this museum such a myth (the olymp of rock and pop music)?
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 28th, 2014, 7:06pm »

Not much love for Chic here it appears - great funk band and very influential I think.
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 28th, 2014, 9:55pm »

on Nov 28th, 2014, 5:20pm, boredatwork wrote:
..... and as for that vastly influential, important & pioneering but - fatally for their chances in this context - German synth band, well they certainly havenít. Iím amazed they even got nominated.

You would be incorrect with that assumption.

Kraftwerk have had a prominent level of recognition and success in North America, and their role in pioneering the subsequent synth era has been countlessly referred to for many years. I'd be surprised if they didn't get inducted.

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I only became aware of the RRHOF when I read about Genesis being admitted a couple of years back. They (the band) & PG individually this year did seem to set great store by getting in, perhaps because any non-Americans have to be exceptionally meritorious to make it?

Not really. Historically, British bands have always looked to succeed in America, and many have managed to do so. Both Genesis & PG achieved that, and although not a big surprise, it would only seem normal to be appreciative of the recognition. But being foreign isn't in itself a deterrent to recognition, it's just a little easier for artists that are already here.

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I canít recall ever hearing of Stevie Ray Vaughan...

I find that surprising, but if you have little interest in blues then it's more likely that you wouldn't have paid much attention to anyone in that genre. Vaughan was quite highly regarded in his day, and I think that his induction is a given.
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