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« Reply #15 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 03:23am »

The Musical Box closing section, the vocal line under "Brush back your hair", I've always assumed is Banks. Am I right? Do we know why - not that there's anything wrong with it, but given that Collins already got himself a lead line having only just arrived, you might expect a prominent backing vocal line to go to him.
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 06:49am »

on Aug 1st, 2017, 03:11am, Backdrifter wrote:
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The distant vocal just before Los Endos fades out: is it "Angel get back home" or "Angel take me back home" or something else?

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There's an angel standing in the sun,
Free to get back home.


Lifted from Supper's Ready.

It was a neat little way of saying goodbye.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 07:43am »

on Jul 31st, 2017, 5:39pm, Kerry95 wrote:
on second home by the sea, between 0:14 and 0:25, mike's guitar notes sound increasingly low. this aspect was slightly improved in the 2007 remixes, but still...


Hmm, I don't hear this. Do you mean lower in volume? It sounds like maybe that last chord he hits is slightly quieter, but just that he didn't hit it as hard as the others.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 07:45am »

on Aug 1st, 2017, 03:23am, Backdrifter wrote:
The Musical Box closing section, the vocal line under "Brush back your hair", I've always assumed is Banks. Am I right? Do we know why - not that there's anything wrong with it, but given that Collins already got himself a lead line having only just arrived, you might expect a prominent backing vocal line to go to him.


There are two people singing in unison. One sounds like Pete. I can't quite make out the other. But Tony is credited for singing on the album.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 07:58am »

on Aug 1st, 2017, 03:19am, Backdrifter wrote:
that track has one of my favourite slightly odd moments of any Genesis track, the two rapid drum breaks just after "one hell of a fright" that completely disrupt the whole rhythm of the track at that point. I suppose they're meant the signify the 'fright' but I love how they break it up.
I always liked that too. I always thought it sounded like something Steve might have done on one of his own albums, but I don't know how likely it is that he actually came up with it here.

on Aug 1st, 2017, 07:45am, snowdog wrote:
There are two people singing in unison. One sounds like Pete. I can't quite make out the other. But Tony is credited for singing on the album.
I'm pretty sure that's Tony and Phil.
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 2:41pm »

I've never been able to make out in Invisible Touch what he sings after "Invisible Touch." It sounds like "she reaches him, and grabs right hold of her art."
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 03:04am »

on Aug 1st, 2017, 07:58am, onetwothree wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's Tony and Phil.

It's definitely Gabriel singing the lead line, but yes I'm sure it's Banks singing under it.

on Aug 1st, 2017, 07:58am, onetwothree wrote:
I always liked that too. I always thought it sounded like something Steve might have done on one of his own albums, but I don't know how likely it is that he actually came up with it here.

Yes! I hadn't ever thought that but yeah it does seem like a Hacketty solo type thing. But as to who came up with it on Slippermen, I'd go with Collins as he was always a very creative drummer and I can imagine him putting that bit in as a response to the 'fright' lyric to convey a sense of shock.

On the live Archive version I like the staccato guitar stabs SH adds in to that bit, and the generally great texture he provides throughout most of the Raven section.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 06:56am »

on Aug 1st, 2017, 2:41pm, CyanideWand wrote:
It sounds like "she reaches him, and grabs right hold of her art."

"She reaches in and grabs right hold of your heart."

I've never been sure how grammatically correct "grabs right hold of" actually is.
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 07:27am »

on Aug 2nd, 2017, 06:56am, onetwothree wrote:
"She reaches in and grabs right hold of your heart."

I've never been sure how grammatically correct "grabs right hold of" actually is.


Can you elaborate? As a non-native speaker I'm curious. Should it be "rightly hold of"? huh
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« Reply #24 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 08:00am »

on Aug 2nd, 2017, 07:27am, Schrottrocker wrote:
Can you elaborate? As a non-native speaker I'm curious. Should it be "rightly hold of"?

The way I know to say it would just be "grabs hold of."
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« Reply #25 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 08:15am »

That was my attempt at humor. I was trying to choose the most obvious lyric.

But "to grab right hold of" means to seize something confidently and without hesitation.
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« Reply #26 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 09:06am »

Plus of course "grabs right hold of" just scans better which I'm sure is the reason for it. I really hope songwriters aren't too bothered about grammatical correctness!
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« Reply #27 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 09:17am »

on Aug 2nd, 2017, 08:15am, CyanideWand wrote:
That was my attempt at humor. I was trying to choose the most obvious lyric.

Ah... a wise guy, eh?
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 2nd, 2017, 10:24am »

Foolish guy, maybe?
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 4th, 2017, 6:07pm »

on Jul 26th, 2017, 05:17am, Backdrifter wrote:
e.g. for me: Lilywhite Lilith, a couple of seconds after the line "...by whatever's coming here" there's what sounds to me like a bit of vocal very far back in the mix. If it's there, is it actual words, or just vocalising? Or if it isn't a vocal, what is it?


As somebody mentioned earlier, this is much more prominent in the Nick Davies remix.

To me it sounds definitely like words, not a scat. The last phrase on its own seems to be "hovered above the ground". The stuff before that is very tricky to make out.
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