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« Reply #15 on: Jul 31st, 2017, 11:29am »

on Jul 31st, 2017, 10:12am, Billys_Number wrote:
I must say I wish Seconds out's studio version ended like the live version. IMO that could've been one of the best song endings they've done. But the way it's done on ATOTT, it almost sounds unintentional.

What song title did you mean here? Squonk, maybe?
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« Reply #16 on: Aug 1st, 2017, 5:38pm »

on Jul 31st, 2017, 11:29am, onetwothree wrote:
What song title did you mean here? Squonk, maybe?


Yes, Squonk-sorry.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 8th, 2017, 09:25am »

I've got one:

I grew up with Trespass, the record; however, in later years I came across a friend's CD of it, and Stagnation is faded at the very end, it doesn't build to the crescendo and stop. angry It's really frustrating because you can still hear it, it's just quiet. And why would anyone do that??

Anyone hear this version?
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 8th, 2017, 09:58am »

on Aug 8th, 2017, 09:25am, mbrownkcmo wrote:
I came across a friend's CD of it, and Stagnation is faded at the very end, it doesn't build to the crescendo and stop. angry It's really frustrating because you can still hear it, it's just quiet. And why would anyone do that??

Anyone hear this version?

Yes, on the first CD copy of TRESPASS I had. It really ticked me off, too. I promptly got rid of that CD and got the Definitive Edition Remaster.
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« Reply #19 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 06:40am »

on Aug 8th, 2017, 09:58am, onetwothree wrote:
Yes, on the first CD copy of TRESPASS I had. It really ticked me off, too. I promptly got rid of that CD and got the Definitive Edition Remaster.


Me too. I believe that particular fade-out from and unique to the MCA CD.
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« Reply #20 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 09:57am »

on Aug 9th, 2017, 06:40am, WutheringNights76 wrote:
Me too. I believe that particular fade-out from and unique to the MCA CD.

Yep, that was the one. MCA was, of course, the same company that listed all the times on side 1 of the U.S. TRESPASS LP as "7:00" and gave it the worst-made album sleeve I've ever seen.

They just never got TRESPASS right, apparently.
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 2:35pm »

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« Reply #22 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 2:51pm »

on Aug 9th, 2017, 2:35pm, Schrottrocker wrote:
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It may have had the "$uper $avings" graphic; I don't remember for sure.

Here's what I do remember, though (from the "Badly Packaged Genesis Albums" thread):

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the sleeve was made of thin cardboard covered with a layer of thin paper on which the design was printed... and, near one edge, there was about a quarter inch all the way across where there was only the thin paper because the cardboard didn't make it all the way 'round.
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 6:01pm »

I had the MCA Super Saver release. It was from the early 80's and didn't have the gatefold sleeve. It may have have been the ABC Records version that had the everything-is-seven-minutes defect.
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« Reply #24 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 6:07pm »

some songs kind of fade out even when played live, as it's been mentioned above. for example, supper's ready and fading lights.
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« Reply #25 on: Aug 9th, 2017, 6:47pm »

I much prefer the live ending to FOF than the album fade out version
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« Reply #26 on: Aug 10th, 2017, 06:30am »

on Aug 9th, 2017, 6:47pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
I much prefer the live ending to FOF than the album fade out version


Interestingly, there's a few bootleg recordings from the Selling England tour where you can hear Tony play the ending with the fade out. Also he played only the melody line on the synth and omitted the chords to it. He changed it only later on when he played it on the electric piano and added the "proper" ending. I prefer that ending too.
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« Reply #27 on: Aug 15th, 2017, 05:27am »

on Jul 27th, 2017, 10:52am, Billys_Number wrote:
I agree about Abacab's ending. The "fiddling around" portion should be like 30 seconds shorter, and the guitar solo 30 seconds longer IMO! Some great stuff there.



This reminds me of when i got excited when i found a copy of the 'Keep It Dark' 12-inch single and it stated it had the "Long Version" of Abacab on the b-side. Only to find it was the same as the Album version. Talk about mis-leading information!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 15th, 2017, 6:09pm »

There's always been rumours about some ominous 20-minute version of Abacab (the song). If there's any truth behind this it was probably just the band telling about an extended jam session that gave life to the basic ideas of this song.
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 16th, 2017, 07:19am »

Agree with so much in this thread.

The fades in CAS is what I would call, "hasty"

The only fade on that album that actually disappoints me is Alien Afternoon - I really love the 2nd half of that song, especially the live version with its extended guitar solo and dramatic (intro-chord-sequence-revisited) ending. On record it gains this great power with layers of sound and then, vwoomp! gone. sigh...
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