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« Reply #15 on: May 28th, 2017, 05:43am »

on May 27th, 2017, 11:12pm, Billys_Number wrote:
Otherwise IMO pieces like The Waiting Room, Ravine, Silent Sorrow, etc. could've simply been left off the album as well

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« Reply #16 on: May 28th, 2017, 12:01pm »

on May 28th, 2017, 05:43am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
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I agree. Silent sorrow is one of those "less is more" tracks that someone like, say, Patrick Moraz, a keyboard wizard, could never do, or understand.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28th, 2017, 12:38pm »

on May 28th, 2017, 12:01pm, foxfeeder wrote:
I agree. Silent sorrow is one of those "less is more" tracks that someone like, say, Patrick Moraz, a keyboard wizard, could never do, or understand.

One of the most divinely soothing pieces of music ever composed IMO. Enchanting, overworldly, and unique.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28th, 2017, 4:32pm »

on May 28th, 2017, 05:43am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
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« Reply #19 on: May 29th, 2017, 07:19am »

Admittedly, I'm still seeing it through the wide eyes of a sixteen year-old, having just discovered this massive catalogue of amazing music, but there is absolutely nothing I would change about The Lamb. I remember, after reading the story, wondering if Peter left the band because he simply went insane. (At this point, I'd never heard the name Syd Barrett.) It was this question that spurred me to look under 'G' in my local Camelot Music store for 'Gabriel' and discover another world of strange, wonderful music.

Now, seeing through the eyes of middle-age, there are, perhaps, a couple of very minor flaws here and there. Maybe, I could have done without the intro to "Slippermen". Maybe the first part of "The Waiting Room" gets a bit grating and could have been shortened. I think the guys were reveling in having such a huge canvas on which to paint. But, again, I think that any change you could make to it wouldn't necessarily make the whole better, just shorter.
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« Reply #20 on: May 29th, 2017, 11:59pm »

on May 28th, 2017, 12:38pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
One of the most divinely soothing pieces of music ever composed IMO. Enchanting, overworldly, and unique.



Interesting to see such a show of solidarity in support of Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats-which I've always regarded as the track on the album I like least. I'm sure I'm not the only one around who doesn't revere Silent Sorrow as a shining moment on this 23 track album.

Still, it's important not to get me wrong. Just cos I think something feels like "filler" to me, doesn't mean I dislike it. I agree it is quite soothing-I actually have Silent Sorrow set as my wake alarm!! wink
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« Reply #21 on: May 30th, 2017, 07:01am »

on May 29th, 2017, 11:59pm, Billys_Number wrote:
Interesting to see such a show of solidarity in support of Silent Sorrow in Empty Boats-which I've always regarded as the track on the album I like least. I'm sure I'm not the only one around who doesn't revere Silent Sorrow as a shining moment on this 23 track album.

Still, it's important not to get me wrong. Just cos I think something feels like "filler" to me, doesn't mean I dislike it. I agree it is quite soothing-I actually have Silent Sorrow set as my wake alarm!! wink


'cos when it starts, you're motivated to get up and leave ASAP! grin
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« Reply #22 on: May 30th, 2017, 8:05pm »

Is there anyone who would have preferred to see the concept based around 'The Little Prince'? (The only other "seriously considered" idea)
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« Reply #23 on: May 31st, 2017, 02:55am »

on May 30th, 2017, 8:05pm, WutheringNights76 wrote:
Is there anyone who would have preferred to see the concept based around 'The Little Prince'? (The only other "seriously considered" idea)


i simply don't like 'the little prince'. when i see any quote from that book on facebook, i never give it a like. that applies to paulo coelho quotes too, by the way.

ths story of rael is fantastic, in comparison.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31st, 2017, 06:25am »

on May 30th, 2017, 8:05pm, WutheringNights76 wrote:
Is there anyone who would have preferred to see the concept based around 'The Little Prince'? (The only other "seriously considered" idea)

All I'll say is, even Mike didn't pursue the concept when he got around to doing his own album... wink
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« Reply #25 on: May 31st, 2017, 06:43am »

on May 30th, 2017, 8:05pm, WutheringNights76 wrote:
Is there anyone who would have preferred to see the concept based around 'The Little Prince'? (The only other "seriously considered" idea)

I'm glad they dropped the idea actually.
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« Reply #26 on: May 31st, 2017, 11:03am »

An interesting concept, but I think the Rael story is better...
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 1st, 2017, 06:59am »

All interesting comments and takes. Has anyone considered though how quickly the band and Gabriel produced the 90 minutes of material that makes up The Lamb?

They came off a lengthy bout of touring in the first week of May, took a short break of what?, two weeks and wrote, recorded and mixed it in 4.5 months.

Flawed or not (and I say not) its a major piece of work by any standards. Added to which are the difficult circumstances of its recording where 40% of the band had other stuff going on with their personal lives and were prevented from fully focussing on the work.

The Lamb, music and lyrics, is a work of genius.
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xx Re: Anti-TLLDOB people: Why don't you like the alb
« Reply #28 on: Jun 1st, 2017, 11:15am »

on Jun 1st, 2017, 06:59am, MicSmith wrote:
The Lamb, music and lyrics, is a work of genius.


I share this opinion, I've been listening to it for over 35 years and it is one of the few albums which can still surprise me with something new. I can understand why some find it difficult to get into.
That said, I still find it flawed, perhaps because of the predicaments some of the band's members were going through, perhaps the band dynamic was simply changing for good and it was hard to work effectively as a unit or maybe it is simply impossible to have such thing as a 'perfect' double-album.
A couple of songs are imo not up to par.
In all honesty though, I don't think a piece of art, any art, should be enjoyed because of any supposed or alleged perfection.
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« Reply #29 on: Jun 1st, 2017, 12:45pm »

on Jun 1st, 2017, 06:59am, MicSmith wrote:
The Lamb, music and lyrics, is a work of genius.

Indeed. What a stunning, ingenious accomplishment.

When it comes to double albums, I find that most of them are rather disappointing. It's very difficult to fill up an 80+ minute record with mostly excellent content. The Who's Tommy and IQ's Subterranea are merely so-so albums to me, Pink Floyd's The Wall is mediocre, and I could barely finish The Rolling Stones' Exile On Main Street.

But TLLDOB is, to me at least, the perfect example of a double album that stays brilliant for the vast majority of its running time. From beginning to end you're constantly entertained; there are very, very few parts that feel like filler to me. To me it's not just the best double album ever, but the best double album by a wide margin (not counting live albums of course).
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