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« Thread started on: May 1st, 2017, 08:08am »

Based on a couple of LAMB-related threads we've had, I've gotten the impression that everyone hates the "Chinese jam" introduction to "The Colony of Slippermen."

In an earlier thread, I contrasted this apparent hate with something I read in a review of the album:

"'The Colony Of Slippermen'... begins with an amazing series of sonic effects..."

Personally, I don't hate the intro and lean toward the above sentiment from the review. To me, the intro paints a vivid picture of the strange scene that Rael walks into -- the grotesque Slippermen in what I imagine as an equally grotesque landscape. This is just one example of how effective the music of the LAMB is at setting a mood -- often a haunting and rather disturbing one.

Does anyone else not hate this intro?
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« Reply #1 on: May 1st, 2017, 09:03am »

I can only speak from the other side: The main song Colony of Slippermen always stood out to me as one of the few songs I always enjoyed listening to, I would even go so far and call it the best Lamb song. It ranks even above In The Cage for me.

...except that there's this one minute intro that doesn't have any connection to the rest of the song and you can't even skip it on CD. It's not terribly creative imho and annoying to listen to. It should have been its own track on CD so you can skip it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 1st, 2017, 09:13am »

I was going to type essentially the same thing in the Lamb as a single album thread, but I think it is more appropriate here.

The thing I love about The Lamb, and why I would have an impossible time cutting the album down to a single release is the double album length gave them room for all of these interludes and instrumental pieces that won't make the cut if you're constrained to just 50 minutes.

Even though I think there are some really strong songs on The Lamb I think the album is one where the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts because it contains some of their most experimental work and without those parts the album would be a bit flat to me.
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« Reply #3 on: May 1st, 2017, 10:19am »

I agree with WinstonWolf. I think the intro works just fine in the context of the album - much like a lot of the other atmospheric parts of the Lamb. Not essential to the song as an entity in itself, but it contributes well to the sense of narrative, moving on from the melancholy reflection in "Silent Sorrow" into a more disturbing, creepy part of the story.

If I had included Slippermen in my 1-disc track list, as I was tempted to, I almost certainly would have cut out the intro.
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« Reply #4 on: May 1st, 2017, 11:15am »

on May 1st, 2017, 09:03am, Schrottrocker wrote:
It ranks even above In The Cage for me.


I feel that way too!!

I actually dig that intro to slipperman. I only cut it from my single album because I thought it would flow better from Hairless Heart into Slipperman if it began right with Peter's whacky vocal thing.

I would say that I believe it should be its own track on the album because sometimes I'm in the mood just for the song. But it's perfect for it when your listening to the album as a whole. That's what I love about listening to the Lamb as a whole is the soundscapes around the album that just set a mood between songs. I love the Ravine as well.
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« Reply #5 on: May 1st, 2017, 11:33am »

Perhaps an improvement to the LAMB would have been to have the intro as one track (maybe called "Arrival"), and then have the rest of "Slippermen" as another, without the three "section" titles.

I never saw the need for "Slippermen" to have separate titles for its "sections," especially given that the very separate-sounding intro doesn't even get a title of its own.
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« Reply #6 on: May 1st, 2017, 12:54pm »

It's my least favorite part of the album, and possibly my least favorite minute-and-a-half in all of Genesis.
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« Reply #7 on: May 1st, 2017, 1:16pm »

Never been fond of it. It's part of the reason why I prefer the first half of TLLDOB to the second. The first half is spectacular and virtually flawless. The second half, while still very good, has a few experimental slip-ups.

It's my least favourite part of the album. Coincidentally, it comes right after my favourite part - SSIEB.
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« Reply #8 on: May 1st, 2017, 10:21pm »

I like it. It sets the scene and gives you a mental picture of what a colony of slippermen might be like.
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« Reply #9 on: May 2nd, 2017, 2:15pm »

I find it unintresting, bordering on annoying.
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« Reply #10 on: May 2nd, 2017, 3:12pm »

I don't dislike the intro at all. To me, it sets a certain mood. It shows the strangeness and absurdity of the world Rael is entering.

But if you don't like it, you can edit the intro out. On iTunes you could set the mp3 or Apple Lossless file to begin at the 1:47 or 1:48 mark for playback, and even create a new file that begins at that point.
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« Reply #11 on: May 2nd, 2017, 3:57pm »

I quite like it. It would get boring if it went on much longer but at under 2 mins it makes an interesting little interlude.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16th, 2017, 05:04am »

I like the Slippermen intro.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18th, 2017, 1:10pm »

I enjoy it's creepy menace. And there's quite a lot of that on the album, particularly record 2.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18th, 2017, 4:57pm »

on May 18th, 2017, 1:10pm, TMATMATMA wrote:
I enjoy it's creepy menace. And there's quite a lot of that on the album, particularly record 2.


Yes, I like the oft-derided record 2 a lot, partly because of that darker tone.
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