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« Reply #15 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 12:13pm »

Well, if someone isn't particularly engaged by an album and doesn't listen to it much or at all, it's unlikely they will remember much about it.

I like FGTR. No, I don't consider it to be a great album, but I think there are more than a few interesting ideas on it that just never had the chance to really develop. It's a product of its time and of the circumstances in which it was produced. But I like most of the songs on it and have probably listened to the album fairly regularly (although not very often) over the past 30 years or so.

Again, if you have little to no interest in an album, the less likely you will listen to it, and the less likely you will recall the songs.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 12:23pm »

on Feb 13th, 2017, 12:00pm, snowdog wrote:
Fireside Song - Umm...
Window - Umm....

Fireside Song - "Once upon a time there was confusion"
Window - "Flying invisibly high, watch me"
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xx Re: Can anyone here even recall FGTR's songs?
« Reply #17 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 12:35pm »

on Feb 13th, 2017, 12:23pm, onetwothree wrote:
Fireside Song - "Once upon a time there was confusion"
Window - "Flying invisibly high, watch me"


Perfect! grin
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 1:24pm »

I'll agree that FGTR is easily my least favourite Genesis album and the songs are not stellar. But they have a certain charm to them and I can remember most of them pretty well. Of course, that would hardly be the case if the same album were released by some other group that I was less interested in, but nevertheless I genuinely enjoy the album (and other non-album tracks from the same period).
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 1:39pm »

I like - & can therefore recall - “In the Beginning” & “The Conqueror”. Apart from that I have trouble telling the various songs apart, with the exception of “That’s Me” which I thought was on FGTR – although now it appears it might not be after all...... undecided
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 3:18pm »

on Feb 13th, 2017, 1:39pm, boredatwork wrote:
with the exception of “That’s Me” which I thought was on FGTR – although now it appears it might not be after all...... undecided

Only as a bonus track. wink
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 13th, 2017, 8:11pm »

Playing FGTR and Trespass after one other shows, I think, that there are in fact similarities between those albums. I get the impression that many people dismiss FGTR altogether as being something completely else compared to the albums that follow, but for me that album clearly has that Genesis sound to it and it fits in with the deveolopment of the band's sound.

I like a lot of the songs on FGTR. "The Silent Sun" is a great pop song. It would have been a hit, had some other band released it at the time. I always thought that the band should have played in on the 2007 tour as a great surprise number and as a nod to their distant past.
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 14th, 2017, 08:54am »

on Feb 13th, 2017, 8:11pm, AnythingNow wrote:
Playing FGTR and Trespass after one other shows, I think, that there are in fact similarities between those albums. I get the impression that many people dismiss FGTR altogether as being something completely else compared to the albums that follow, but for me that album clearly has that Genesis sound to it and it fits in with the deveolopment of the band's sound.


I do hear some slight similarities, but I think they're missing the better developed instrumental sections that were their trademark and the lyrics were really bland.

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I like a lot of the songs on FGTR. "The Silent Sun" is a great pop song. It would have been a hit, had some other band released it at the time. I always thought that the band should have played in on the 2007 tour as a great surprise number and as a nod to their distant past.


Maybe, but anything that even has a chance of putting one thin dime in King's pocket is right out as far as I'm concerned. I was well satisfied with the Stagnation quote as their nod to the distant past.
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 14th, 2017, 09:28am »

I remember one that goes "You're in the hands of destiny" that I quite liked, I remember The Silent Sun because I've heard it more (being the single and whatnot) and I remember One Eyed Hound just because of how awful it was. I don't consider it a Genesis album. I do have it (mid 90s german Disky label) but I haven't listened to it since the day I bought it.
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« Reply #24 on: Feb 14th, 2017, 10:07am »

on Feb 13th, 2017, 8:11pm, AnythingNow wrote:
Playing FGTR and Trespass after one other shows, I think, that there are in fact similarities between those albums.

I think there's a certain kind of gloominess to both albums that's not found in even their darker later material.

on Feb 14th, 2017, 09:28am, kayley10 wrote:
I remember One Eyed Hound just because of how awful it was.

Another bonus track that wasn't actually on the album.
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« Reply #25 on: Feb 14th, 2017, 11:29am »

I listened to FGTR yesterday and I can now successfully recall the opening track. The rest, however, have all blurred together once again (with the exception of ITW, which has always been my favourite from the album).
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« Reply #26 on: Feb 15th, 2017, 10:48am »

Not a lot of love for FGTR it would seem. Despite all its obvious faults I really like it, it may not be my favourite Genesis album but it's a long way from being my least favourite either. It's clearly not the album they wanted to make and a lot of the blame for that has to lie with King, who reined in their more adventurous ideas and essentially called the shots when it came to musical direction and choice of material. It's frustrating to think that, with a more sympathetic producer, it could have been so much better. Some of their best material inexplicably didn't make the cut for the album either - I'm thinking Build Me a Mountain in particular, The Image Blown Out and of course Visions of Angels. Despite that there are some interesting songs and ideas in there, it's possible to get just a glimpse of the band they would become.

I've always had a soft spot for the album, finding a tatty copy in the sale bin of a local record shop in early '72 was the first time I'd heard of the band. I had no idea what they were like, or if they even still existed, but scanning the notes on the lyric sheet was enough to spark my interest to find out more about them, which eventually led me to Trespass and Nursery Cryme.

I thought I'd dig out a few quotes from Armando Gallo's Evolution of a Rock Band, which pretty much sum what went wrong when King got too much of his own way:

Jonathan King - 'They were very self-indulgent with their solos. We used to have lots of discussions about large parts of their songs being removed by me, and they usually agreed because they were only young and easily influenced'.

David Thomas - The original tracks without strings were great. He just totally destroyed the sound...it's unbeliveable, just ridiculous. There were some very powerful numbers in there, and everything was reduced to a joke by the mix'.

Ant - 'I felt very frustrated, and I sort of stormed out of the studio, in fact, on the final session of the album. I was just disgusted with it. I just could not believe it was going out like that'.
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« Reply #27 on: Feb 23rd, 2017, 1:58pm »

Uts an interesting album. Whats kinda weird is genesis started with short songs love songs in a way and they ended that way lol
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« Reply #28 on: Feb 24th, 2017, 08:31am »

I like to listen to FGTR once in a while, because it's worth it, IMO. I can safely say I have listened to much worse albums in my life. It isn't even Genesis' weakest album, that would be the lack-lustre CAS for me. And the only song I can't remember off the top of my head is the one for the fireside.

And did you know the album has an unexpected fan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H619sdxUe8A
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