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« Reply #45 on: May 20th, 2015, 07:26am »

Anyways

Isn't DUKE brill rolleyes

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« Reply #46 on: May 20th, 2015, 07:38am »

on May 20th, 2015, 07:19am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
We're discussing the unusual structure of the Abacab album and the other songs made in the album's sessions, the ways in which the songs can be linked together, and what could have been done to improve the album.

Naminanu/Dodo/Lurker/Submarine sounds really intriguing. A shame they didn't make that into one big track for the second side. undecided


chinwildchicken made a complete Dodo suite of them. I can upload it for anyone who is interested.
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« Reply #47 on: May 20th, 2015, 08:04am »

on May 20th, 2015, 06:53am, onetwothree wrote:
The odd names like "Jangley" were working titles for the songs whose final titles follow those names in parentheses.

Ahh, I see. Thank you!

on May 20th, 2015, 07:19am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
We're discussing the unusual structure of the Abacab album and the other songs made in the album's sessions, the ways in which the songs can be linked together, and what could have been done to improve the album.

Got that. It was the funny song titles that threw me.

I think Abacab is a very good album, and my perception from reading comments on this forum over the past several years is that I enjoy "No Reply At All," "Keep It Dark," and "Like It Or Not" more than most people here do. I do agree that the structure of the album is a bit disjointed.

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« Reply #48 on: May 20th, 2015, 08:36am »

on May 20th, 2015, 07:38am, Schrottrocker wrote:
chinwildchicken made a complete Dodo suite of them. I can upload it for anyone who is interested.


So did I! I seem to remember emailing it to you about 4 years ago! grin
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« Reply #49 on: May 20th, 2015, 08:46am »

on May 20th, 2015, 08:04am, Dust wrote:
I think Abacab is a very good album, and my perception from reading comments on this forum over the past several years is that I enjoy "No Reply At All," "Keep It Dark," and "Like It Or Not" more than most people here do. I do agree that the structure of the album is a bit disjointed.

I'm warming up to Like It Or Not, though rather slowly.
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« Reply #50 on: May 20th, 2015, 08:51am »

on May 20th, 2015, 08:46am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
I'm warming up to Like It Or Not, though rather slowly.

I think it's one of Phil's best vocals ever. I like the way it transitions from small and sad to big and angry. smiley
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« Reply #51 on: May 20th, 2015, 08:54am »

on May 20th, 2015, 08:51am, Dust wrote:
I think it's one of Phil's best vocals ever. I like the way it transitions from small and sad to big and angry. smiley


+1

(And I think it makes for a rather better closer than "Another Record"!)
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« Reply #52 on: May 20th, 2015, 11:33am »

on May 20th, 2015, 08:36am, Merryman72 wrote:
So did I! I seem to remember emailing it to you about 4 years ago! grin


Oh you did it! cheesy I must have confused it with that other mix chinwildchicken created, or whoever else made it...
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« Reply #53 on: May 27th, 2015, 09:30am »

on May 27th, 2015, 07:27am, Swede wrote:
Funny - I have exactly the same opinions about this album, except that I think Travels' opening is OK.

I love the opening of Travels -- very mood-setting piece of sound.
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« Reply #54 on: Jun 19th, 2015, 5:10pm »

Just listening to Duke. Hey, it must have been ages since I listened to that album! Really one of the best Genesis albums ever, they might have been a degree more genius on other albums but then again most other albums have some flaw too at some point. Duke doesn't, it keeps its quality level from the first note to the last. smiley

In that respect it is only rivalled by Selling England imho - funny the parallels between these two albums: both were preceded by three really good albums and both followed by one which is really hard to get an approach to it.
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« Reply #55 on: Apr 7th, 2016, 6:24pm »

The first time I listened to this album, I was a prog snob who detested the entire Phil Collins era as "just commercial pop dreck". This was the album that changed my mind about that forever. I was blown away at the time by how progressive stuff like Behind The Lines, Heathhaze, cul-de-sac and Duke's Travels and Duke's end was, and I even found myself really enjoying the popper songs like MOOT, Please Don't Ask, and GASP! Misunderstanding. Bottom line being, this is one of my all time favorite Genesis albums, and the last one I can listen to all the way through without wanting to ever skip a song.
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« Reply #56 on: Apr 8th, 2016, 6:50pm »

Still not sure about this album but here is a tentative ranking:

1. Turn It On Again
2. Misunderstanding (I love this song. Always have).,
3. Behind The Lines
4. Duchess
5. Duke's Travels
6. Duke's End
7. Please Don't Ask
8. Alone Tonight
9. Heathaze
10. Cul-De-Sac
11. Guide Vocal
12. Man Of Our Times

I'm sure I can do better than that at a later date.
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« Reply #57 on: Apr 9th, 2016, 10:14am »

on Apr 7th, 2016, 6:24pm, bitterminnow1 wrote:
I even found myself really enjoying the popper songs like MOOT


Man Of Our Times a "popper" song?
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« Reply #58 on: Apr 9th, 2016, 11:17am »

on Apr 9th, 2016, 10:14am, TonyEdwards wrote:
Man Of Our Times a "popper" song?


Yeah. I always pop over to the CD player to hit the "next" button! wink

(I don't really. I've got a remote).
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« Reply #59 on: Apr 9th, 2016, 1:44pm »

on Apr 9th, 2016, 11:17am, foxfeeder wrote:
Yeah. I always pop over to the CD player to hit the "next" button! wink

(I don't really. I've got a remote).


Very good! But, love it or hate it, it is a rock song and not a pop song (IMO).
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