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« Reply #30 on: Dec 1st, 2012, 2:04pm »

on Nov 30th, 2012, 05:22am, Nov wrote:
Totally agree.

Vancouver is a beautiful little track with great atmosphere.

I also agree that Open Door is lovely as is Evidence of Autumn, You Might Recall, etc, etc.

Genesis should have released a b-sides (only) CD at some point - not just as part of a box set. It would have been better than a few studio albums I could name wink


Always assumed Vancouver might have roots in Phil having lived there briefly, and thus it may be based on an actual incident?

Many of the b-sides of the 3 man era are better than the stuff on the albums IMO.
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« Reply #31 on: Feb 23rd, 2017, 1:40pm »

How the hell did on the shore line not make it to we cant dance?? What were they thinking?? I know space was an issue but geez lol never a time could of been the b side or just make it a double album they were at their peak then.
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« Reply #32 on: Feb 23rd, 2017, 2:48pm »

I understand that Mike dropped Open Door and picked Alone Tonight for Duke. Still a mistery to me.
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« Reply #33 on: Feb 28th, 2017, 03:18am »

on Feb 23rd, 2017, 2:48pm, Fabrizio wrote:
I understand that Mike dropped Open Door and picked Alone Tonight for Duke. Still a mistery to me.


Well, to me it's not a mystery at all.
Mike had two very similiar songs both in style and content: Alone Tonight and Open Door. They were nearly interchangeable.
One of them had to be left off the album to avoid useless repetition.
They chose Alone Again to be on the album, and relegated Open Door to a single b-side.
It's quite simple and logic in my opinion.

The same thing occurred to Evidence Of Autumn.
Tony had that one and Heathaze, which were perfectly interchangeable.
We know how the story ended.

Also, i read on another forum that on the May 10th, 1980 issue of Sounds there is a Phil Collins interview, where he says that ''... we had three more tracks we had to leave off Duke''.
Do anyone know anything about that elusive third track left off Duke??
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« Reply #34 on: Feb 28th, 2017, 06:20am »

on Feb 28th, 2017, 03:18am, peterpyser wrote:
It's quite simple and logic in my opinion.


It is logic. I just would have dropped Alone Tonight which imo is quite weak but that's me.
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« Reply #35 on: Feb 28th, 2017, 08:25am »

on Feb 28th, 2017, 03:18am, peterpyser wrote:
Also, i read on another forum that on the May 10th, 1980 issue of Sounds there is a Phil Collins interview, where he says that ''... we had three more tracks we had to leave off Duke''.
Do anyone know anything about that elusive third track left off Duke??


In The Air Tonight? huh
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« Reply #36 on: Feb 28th, 2017, 09:26am »

on Feb 28th, 2017, 08:25am, Schrottrocker wrote:
In The Air Tonight? huh

I don't think they even got to work on IIAT. According to Phil he played it to the others and it was rejected, according to Tony he never heard it and would have never rejected it, either case they didn't work on that song. I'm inclined to believe in Phil's version BTW wink
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« Reply #37 on: Mar 1st, 2017, 3:01pm »

on Feb 28th, 2017, 03:18am, peterpyser wrote:
Also, i read on another forum that on the May 10th, 1980 issue of Sounds there is a Phil Collins interview, where he says that ''... we had three more tracks we had to leave off Duke''.
Do anyone know anything about that elusive third track left off Duke??


Was it a song that was never recorded? I thought Tony said that they've released everything in their archives.
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« Reply #38 on: Mar 1st, 2017, 4:21pm »

on Mar 1st, 2017, 3:01pm, rael1974 wrote:
Was it a song that was never recorded? I thought Tony said that they've released everything in their archives.


I wouldn't believe a word Tony said and says.
I read that full Phil 1980 interview and i believe he meant they had to keep off the album 3 songs already recorded and completed.
Duchess, the first single from Duke to include a session outtake, was issued on 9th may 1980, Phil interview had been surely conducted some time before it, so he was somewhat anticipating what would be happening in the future with some still unreleased material.
Maybe he exaggerated things a bit, he said 3 when he perfectly knew there were only 2 leftovers, or maybe the third one remained in the can and was soon forgotten.
Who knows?

One thing is sure: it is not In The Air Tonight, because it's now well known that Genesis never played that song.
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« Reply #39 on: Mar 1st, 2017, 5:08pm »

That's one I do not care for along with You Might Recall. They never sounded good enough to be on an album.
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« Reply #40 on: Mar 28th, 2017, 12:02pm »

on Feb 28th, 2017, 09:26am, Fabrizio wrote:
I don't think they even got to work on IIAT. According to Phil he played it to the others and it was rejected, according to Tony he never heard it and would have never rejected it, either case they didn't work on that song. I'm inclined to believe in Phil's version BTW wink


Phil says in his book that its quite possable tony forgot the track was played cos it was just a few cords 2 or 3. so it probably wasnt anything special at the time he played them. Or tony is just kicking himself that rejected it lol. We will never know for sure. I tend to lean on what phil said tho. Ill give tony a brake lol
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