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« Reply #825 on: Feb 3rd, 2015, 1:24pm »

on Feb 3rd, 2015, 03:02am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
I don't think you understand.

By care, I mean actually care. As in, when you truly believe that the issues of the world are of greater importance than your own life. And they are. This is totally true.

But do people care this much? No. And it's normal not to. We are too busy complaining about the cold weather, stuffing our faces, moaning about sports, watching TV and chatting on this forum. I'm to blame too. I get pissed off when my Internet is slow for example. We all are guilty of caring entirely about our own lives. Outside Red Nose Day and every time the news tells us, we don't want to think about terrorism, the ill or the poor. We shut it out, because we don't want to think about it. Someone suggested that the song Blood On The Rooftops makes this exact point.

Like I said, I support donating, I'm fine with charity, fine with fundraising. Putting some money in a tin is a good thing. What I'm not into is the overblown, manipulative tactics and the fact that they have to make it increasingly more fun and silly for the public every time Red Nose Day comes around. Like boredartwork said, it's a become a self-congratulatory orgy.
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« Reply #826 on: Feb 3rd, 2015, 6:04pm »

on Feb 3rd, 2015, 10:36am, John Wilkinson wrote:
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on Feb 3rd, 2015, 6:04pm, unclealbert wrote:
Ginsters....how could I forget. Especially during the Calling All Service Stations Tour grin


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« Reply #828 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 07:16am »

on Feb 3rd, 2015, 11:22am, foxfeeder wrote:
Dislike the RSPCA with a passion. Bunch of liars, basically!


Agree with you there!
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« Reply #829 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 07:23am »

on Feb 3rd, 2015, 03:02am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Like I said, I support donating, I'm fine with charity, fine with fundraising. Putting some money in a tin is a good thing. What I'm not into is the overblown, manipulative tactics and the fact that they have to make it increasingly more fun and silly for the public every time Red Nose Day comes around. Like boredartwork said, it's a become a self-congratulatory orgy.


I hate the manipulative tactics. Puts me off tbh. They always try and make you feel guilty, which is why I don't watch any more. People even knock on your door / phone you and do this. We all need to feed and care for our own, so they shouldn't make us feel guilty. And there are plenty of other charities who don't have such publicity.
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« Reply #830 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 08:29am »

Yes, manipulative tactics. That's it. That's the part that gets up my nose.


In Toronto, volunteers from the Sick Children's Hospital will stop you on the street and say 'Do you have time for Sick Children?' How are you supposed to answer that with a no without feeling like crap? And there you were, just walking along enjoying the day. Makes me nuts.


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« Reply #831 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 09:41am »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 08:29am, Lily wrote:
In Toronto, volunteers from the Sick Children's Hospital will stop you on the street and say 'Do you have time for Sick Children?' How are you supposed to answer that with a no without feeling like crap?

You answer, "No, I don't.", and keep walking.
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« Reply #832 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 09:42am »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 09:41am, HENRY wrote:
You answer, "No, I don't.", and keep walking.



Yes, but the manipulate wording was my point.
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« Reply #833 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 09:47am »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 09:42am, Lily wrote:
Yes, but the manipulate wording was my point.

Yes, I know. I was just demonstrating a way of dealing with it.
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« Reply #834 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 10:45am »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 08:29am, Lily wrote:
Yes, manipulative tactics. That's it. That's the part that gets up my nose.


In Toronto, volunteers from the Sick Children's Hospital will stop you on the street and say 'Do you have time for Sick Children?' How are you supposed to answer that with a no without feeling like crap? And there you were, just walking along enjoying the day. Makes me nuts.


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These people have a name here: "Chuggers" - Charity Muggers. Sean Lock (UK stand up comic) has another name for them: Chunts! grin
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« Reply #835 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 11:13am »

on Feb 2nd, 2015, 12:31pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
... I am getting truly sick of people thinking that they actually care as much as they do about the less fortunate.

So are people going to buy loads of noses in an attempt to find a gold one because they actually care about the poor, suffering people of the world? No. They'll do it for themselves. They don't care where the money goes.... A way for people to praise themselves as they pretend that they care about the suffering when in reality, they've just been told to suddenly start caring for the time being. rolleyes

on Feb 3rd, 2015, 03:02am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
By care, I mean actually care. As in, when you truly believe that the issues of the world are of greater importance than your own life. And they are. This is totally true.

But do people care this much? No.... We all are guilty of caring entirely about our own lives.

on Feb 4th, 2015, 07:23am, Squigelyfox wrote:
I hate the manipulative tactics.... We all need to feed and care for our own, so they shouldn't make us feel guilty.

on Feb 4th, 2015, 08:29am, Lily wrote:
In Toronto, volunteers from the Sick Children's Hospital will stop you on the street and say 'Do you have time for Sick Children?' How are you supposed to answer that with a no without feeling like crap? And there you were, just walking along enjoying the day. Makes me nuts.
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on Feb 4th, 2015, 09:41am, HENRY wrote:
You answer, "No, I don't.", and keep walking.

I don't even know what youse people are talking about anymore.

We should care about the underprivileged in the world more than the people in our lives? Every day? If I donate to charity a few times a year, but I don't think about them when I'm on vacation, I'm a bad person? If I donate, but in a way that brings a little fun and enjoyment, this means I don't really care?

And... manipulative? Charities--and I mean the well-meaning ones that actually do good things for the recipients--need to sometimes employ aggressive tactics to be successful. No one can make me feel guilty if I don't already. "Yes, I care about sick children, but I am not donating today, thank you." No reason to be snotty about it.

I am proud of the fact that I occasionally donate my time and money, when I am able to do so, and I won't let anyone make me feel otherwise. Last week I got a call from someone asking for a donation for Saint Jude Children's Hospital. I merely replied, "No, I donate some time and money to the American Cancer Society and the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, but thank you for the call and good luck with your fundraising. Goodbye."

That's all. No need for guilt or angst or cynicism. We do what we can do, and if someone tries to imply that I don't care about the things they think I should care about... well that's their problem.

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« Reply #836 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 11:56am »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 11:13am, Dust wrote:
I don't even know what youse people are talking about anymore.

We should care about the underprivileged in the world more than the people in our lives? Every day? If I donate to charity a few times a year, but I don't think about them when I'm on vacation, I'm a bad person? If I donate, but in a way that brings a little fun and enjoyment, this means I don't really care?

And... manipulative? Charities--and I mean the well-meaning ones that actually do good things for the recipients--need to sometimes employ aggressive tactics to be successful. No one can make me feel guilty if I don't already. "Yes, I care about sick children, but I am not donating today, thank you." No reason to be snotty about it.

I am proud of the fact that I occasionally donate my time and money, when I am able to do so, and I won't let anyone make me feel otherwise. Last week I got a call from someone asking for a donation for Saint Jude Children's Hospital. I merely replied, "No, I donate some time and money to the American Cancer Society and the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation, but thank you for the call and good luck with your fundraising. Goodbye."

That's all. No need for guilt or angst or cynicism. We do what we can do, and if someone tries to imply that I don't care about the things they think I should care about... well that's their problem.

Well, my response was meant to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I do agree that contributing to charities is something that all of us of some means should be a part of. Sometimes, I think the tactics used by some who try to solicit donations can be a bit heavy-handed, aggressive, and manipulative, and in those occasions I have no problem in pushing back in return. One time, a young woman came to my door asking for donations to some charity. I usually don't contribute to these kinds of direct solicitations, but I heard her out and told her nicely and politely that I was not interesting in offering a contribution. In response she immediately turn on the guilt trip spiel. I said goodbye and shut the door.

However, I don't agree with the general cynicism being expressed here. I realize that there are certain organizations whose business is to promote and seek contributions for charity, and whose costs of operation tend to diminish what actually goes to the charity, but for the most part these charity events do a lot of good.

Large events like The Red Nose campaign or any other high profile cause are meant to be social affairs that will appeal to many people in order to draw attention and attract contributors, and hopefully be something that people want to be a part of. Why be cynical of that? I don't know.

But you are correct in saying that it's not going to be something we are constantly concerned about day after day. It doesn't mean we are not aware of the issues in our society, but at least we have some outlets available to try and make things better.
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« Reply #837 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 12:06pm »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 10:45am, foxfeeder wrote:
These people have a name here: "Chuggers" - Charity Muggers. Sean Lock (UK stand up comic) has another name for them: Chunts! grin


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on Feb 4th, 2015, 11:56am, HENRY wrote:
Well, my response was meant to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I do agree that contributing to charities is something that all of us of some means should be a part of. Sometimes, I think the tactics used by some who try to solicit donations can be a bit heavy-handed, aggressive, and manipulative, and in those occasions I have no problem in pushing back in return. One time, a young woman came to my door asking for donations to some charity. I usually don't contribute to these kinds of direct solicitations, but I heard her out and told her nicely and politely that I was not interesting in offering a contribution. In response she immediately turn on the guilt trip spiel. I said goodbye and shut the door.

However, I don't agree with the general cynicism being expressed here. I realize that there are certain organizations who's business is to promote and seek contributions for charity, and who's costs of operation tend to diminish what actually goes to the charity, but for the most part these charity events do a lot of good.

Large events like The Red Nose campaign or any other high profile cause are meant to be social affairs that will appeal to many people in order to draw attention and attract contributors, and hopefully be something that people want to be a part of. Why be cynical of that? I don't know.

But you are correct in saying that it's not going to be something we are constantly concerned about day after day. It doesn't mean we are not aware of the issues in our society, but at least we have some outlets available to try and make things better.

Yup, good points.

I don't know anything about the Red Nose campaign, but I question whether it's as insidious as young NoSon makes it sound. wink
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« Reply #839 on: Feb 4th, 2015, 12:13pm »

on Feb 4th, 2015, 11:13am, Dust wrote:
We should care about the underprivileged in the world more than the people in our lives? Every day? If I donate to charity a few times a year, but I don't think about them when I'm on vacation, I'm a bad person? If I donate, but in a way that brings a little fun and enjoyment, this means I don't really care?


Yes, agree with this and had same thought.

on Feb 4th, 2015, 11:13am, Dust wrote:
And... manipulative? Charities--and I mean the well-meaning ones that actually do good things for the recipients--need to sometimes employ aggressive tactics to be successful. No one can make me feel guilty if I don't already. "Yes, I care about sick children, but I am not donating today, thank you." No reason to be snotty about it.



If the world was full of people with high self esteem like you I would agree. But I stand by my opinion as it the wording attempts to target the response I stated.

And don't even get my started on St Judes, give to them once and they hold you hostage forever with phone calls and emails.

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