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« Reply #1485 on: Dec 20th, 2015, 10:48am »

on Dec 19th, 2015, 4:13pm, Dust wrote:
Sorry, but in my opinion the "slippery slope" argument is a huge part of the problem. Extreme gun-rights advocates (see, not calling them "nuts") are trying to convince you that someone wants to take your guns away. What possible evidence have you seen that your rights to defend your family through legal gun-ownership are threatened in any way? How does denying gun purchases to suspected terrorists lead to you having your guns taken away? In what way does requiring background checks at gun shows make you believe that "they're" coming for your guns?

We create legislation to correct serious deficiencies in our societal policies, and the "where do we draw the line" argument never makes sense. There is no difference here to the argument that same-sex marriage laws will lead to people marrying their cats.

And I'm sure you realize that the slippery slope argument works both ways. The Second Amendment does not allow you to own weapons-grade plutonium. Or sarin gas. Or a tank. By the same token, no one is coming to confiscate your personal firearm.


Occurred to me that a good analogy is banning driving while drunk. What next? Ban driving? No, just a step towards common sense, IMO
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« Reply #1486 on: Dec 20th, 2015, 1:49pm »

on Dec 20th, 2015, 10:29am, ericm wrote:
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Actually Liliy, no I haven't thought of it that way, and not being mean or rude or anything but I honestly don't care what the rest of the world thinks about it. The same way I don't care if they approve of my religious beliefs, what music I like or what car I drive.

The 2nd Amendment is found in The Bill Of Rights in our Constitution. I value every single one of those rights and it doesn't matter to me if other countries or their people like or agree with any of them. They are what makes our country great,IMO, and they are there for ALL the people here, with no exceptions.

It's like the saying about the 1st Amendment. I might not like what someone says but I'll fight to the end for their right to say it. Same with burning a flag. I hate that, but know it's an American's right to do it. It's covered under freedom of speech.

Some places don't agree with that either and think it's bizarre. I couldn't imagine living someplace without those rights and freedoms, the same way I couldn't imagine not being able to defend myself or loved ones in my own home. I'm not asking to walk down the street with a gun in a holster, Wild West style, I just don't want someone coming around my place with bad intent. I'll never change my stance on that regardless of anyone else's view. I might (emphasis on might) relent if a loved one didn't want a gun in the house but I'll never relent on wanting my Constitutional right to own one.


I understand where you are coming from Eric, you've made that very clear. My comment was more geared towards the fact that you are discussing this with some people from other countries.


Growing up, I never saw a gun and never thought about them being 'real life' things. Just in Western movies, or in foreign news like when Kennedy got shot for instance. I can't remember a single incident of guns in the UK, although I'm sure there must have been.

When I first came to Canada and saw a policeman wearing a gun holster in the donut shop, I was really scared. Even though thats a long time ago now, to go from that to discussing commonplace ownership is quite a stretch.



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« Reply #1487 on: Dec 20th, 2015, 4:18pm »

on Dec 20th, 2015, 1:49pm, Lily wrote:
I understand where you are coming from Eric, you've made that very clear. My comment was more geared towards the fact that you are discussing this with some people from other countries.


Growing up, I never saw a gun and never thought about them being 'real life' things. Just in Western movies, or in foreign news like when Kennedy got shot for instance. I can't remember a single incident of guns in the UK, although I'm sure there must have been.

When I first came to Canada and saw a policeman wearing a gun holster in the donut shop, I was really scared. Even though thats a long time ago now, to go from that to discussing commonplace ownership is quite a stretch.



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Thanks Lily, and you know I feel the same about you. smiley I definitely know you weren't being disrespectful towards me. That thought never entered my mind.

I understand people from outside the USA not understanding where I'm coming from or even our laws, but at the same time I do have a problem with some of those same people passing judgment when they don't fully understand all that's involved.

It's fine if they disagree based on their own life's experience but to start throwing around terms like "gun nuts" and mistakenly commenting on our gun laws when they obviously don't have a clue, just gets me a bit defensive and calls for a response.

Then to have to respond to a condescending post about plutonium, and Sarin gas like I'm I'm some sort of knuckle dragging no nothing, kinda pisses me off. Maybe other people don't know exactly what the 2nd Amendment covers but I sure as heck do. Save that crap for someone else. Hyperbole or not, it wasn't cool to direct that at me. It was a catty comment and uncalled for regardless of how it was dressed up,IMO.

I'm all for people having their own opinions and free speech, and up for a debate or some back and forth. Just not into fending off any bs, and not about to let that kind of stuff go unanswered. Whether it be what I think is a shot at me, my rights or my country's laws. Especially when I think those shots are unwarranted or misinformed.

I know how sensitive this place can get and certainly hope my opinions or posts don't do anything to get the thread locked. Just trying to post my opinions and take on some posts.
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« Reply #1488 on: Dec 21st, 2015, 09:50am »

on Dec 20th, 2015, 4:18pm, ericm wrote:


I understand people from outside the USA not understanding where I'm coming from or even our laws, but at the same time I do have a problem with some of those same people passing judgment when they don't fully understand all that's involved.

It's fine if they disagree based on their own life's experience but to start throwing around terms like "gun nuts" and mistakenly commenting on our gun laws when they obviously don't have a clue, just gets me a bit defensive and calls for a response.

Then to have to respond to a condescending post about plutonium, and Sarin gas like I'm I'm some sort of knuckle dragging no nothing, kinda pisses me off. Maybe other people don't know exactly what the 2nd Amendment covers but I sure as heck do. Save that crap for someone else. Hyperbole or not, it wasn't cool to direct that at me. It was a catty comment and uncalled for regardless of how it was dressed up,IMO.

I'm all for people having their own opinions and free speech, and up for a debate or some back and forth. Just not into fending off any bs, and not about to let that kind of stuff go unanswered. Whether it be what I think is a shot at me, my rights or my country's laws. Especially when I think those shots are unwarranted or misinformed.



Yes, I get that. And speaking for myself, I certainly don't know all the second amendment covers.
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« Reply #1489 on: Dec 21st, 2015, 3:56pm »

on Dec 20th, 2015, 05:05am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Well to me, a "gun nut" is the absolute extreme end of the anti-gun control people. These are the dangerously paranoid people who own arsenals of automatic weapons and are terrified they will be taken away, compare Obama to Hitler and believe that if he "bans guns" he'll have full power over the U.S. Consitution, claim mass shootings are either acted-out hoaxes or government-planned mass murders, believe owning guns gives them ultimate freedom and the right to kill whoever they feel deserves it, think everyone should be armed at all times, buy guns for their children... this sounds like a massive stereotype but there really are people like this out there, and being the vocal minority they show up a lot in the comment sections of videos or articles about gun control, and the comments they leave are as scary as hell. Then there's this video...



They just can't leave Hitler out of anything. rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes
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« Reply #1490 on: Dec 21st, 2015, 4:32pm »

on Dec 21st, 2015, 3:56pm, Schrottrocker wrote:
They just can't leave Hitler out of anything. rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes

Whatever you do, don't mention the war...
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« Reply #1491 on: Dec 21st, 2015, 5:43pm »

on Dec 21st, 2015, 4:32pm, HENRY wrote:
Whatever you do, don't mention the war...


I did a few times but I think I got away with it...
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« Reply #1492 on: Dec 21st, 2015, 6:07pm »

on Dec 21st, 2015, 5:43pm, Kristopher Kringle wrote:
I did a few times but I think I got away with it...


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« Reply #1493 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 1:36pm »

on Dec 20th, 2015, 4:18pm, ericm wrote:
Then to have to respond to a condescending post about plutonium, and Sarin gas like I'm I'm some sort of knuckle dragging no nothing, kinda pisses me off. Maybe other people don't know exactly what the 2nd Amendment covers but I sure as heck do. Save that crap for someone else. Hyperbole or not, it wasn't cool to direct that at me. It was a catty comment and uncalled for regardless of how it was dressed up,IMO.

So you took undue offense at some toungue-in-cheek comments I made, you decided to refuse to accept my explanation of why I made those comments, and now you're bitching about me to another person--a friend of mine, in fact--on the forum? Not cool at all.

Edit: Nobody else here believes that I would direct a comment to you as though you are a "knuckle-dragging know nothing." You got it wrong, and took offense where none was intended. If you're unwilling to accept my explanation, then please ignore my comments going forward. I do not appreciate being harped-on by you as a disrespectful asshole when I endeavor to show consistent respect to everyone on this forum at all times.
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« Reply #1494 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:18pm »

on Dec 23rd, 2015, 1:36pm, Dust wrote:
So you took undue offense at some toungue-in-cheek comments I made, you decided to refuse to accept my explanation of why I made those comments, and now you're bitching about me to another person--a friend of mine, in fact--on the forum? Not cool at all.

Edit: Nobody else here believes that I would direct a comment to you as though you are a "knuckle-dragging know nothing." You got it wrong, and took offense where none was intended. If you're unwilling to accept my explanation, then please ignore my comments going forward. I do not appreciate being harped-on by you as a disrespectful asshole when I endeavor to show consistent respect to everyone on this forum at all times.


Funny, I never saw one smiley or anything else to indicate your comments were " tongue in cheek". I took them as a catty shot, and found no reason for them, and said so at the time.

I only referred to yours and others comments to Lily in my explanation to her about things I didn't agree with in some posts. It wasn't exactly like I singled you out.

However, I did voice my problem with your comments in a post to you first. You dismissed your comments as "hyperbole" which frankly didn't cut it for me. If you have a problem with me expressing my opinions about posts including yours in other posts regardless of who I'm posting with, well that's just something that I'm not exactly gonna worry about.

I also never called you anything disrespectful. Those words are yours, not mine, and not exactly sure where I'm harping on anything. It was one frggin post to Lily. Who by the way is also a friend of mine. Hardly harping,IMO.

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« Reply #1495 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:37pm »

on Dec 23rd, 2015, 1:36pm, Dust wrote:
So you took undue offense at some toungue-in-cheek comments I made, you decided to refuse to accept my explanation of why I made those comments, and now you're bitching about me to another person--a friend of mine, in fact--on the forum? Not cool at all.

Edit: Nobody else here believes that I would direct a comment to you as though you are a "knuckle-dragging know nothing." You got it wrong, and took offense where none was intended. If you're unwilling to accept my explanation, then please ignore my comments going forward. I do not appreciate being harped-on by you as a disrespectful asshole when I endeavor to show consistent respect to everyone on this forum at all times.


on Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:18pm, ericm wrote:
Funny, I never saw one smiley or anything else to indicate your comments were " tongue in cheek". I took them as a catty shot, and found no reason for them, and said so at the time.

I only referred to yours and others comments to Lily in my explanation to her about things I didn't agree with in some posts. It wasn't exactly like I singled you out.

However, I did voice my problem with your comments in a post to you first. You dismissed your comments as "hyperbole" which frankly didn't cut it for me. If you have a problem with me expressing my opinions about posts including yours in other posts regardless of who I'm posting with, well that's just something that I'm not exactly gonna worry about.

I also never called you anything disrespectful. Those words are yours, not mine, and not exactly sure where I'm harping on anything. It was one frggin post to Lily. Who by the way is also a friend of mine. Hardly harping,IMO.


Well at least itís heartening that you two are engaging in an online spat rather than exercising your constitutional rights - as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment - to shoot each other... wink
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« Reply #1496 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:48pm »

on Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:37pm, boredatwork wrote:
Well at least itís heartening that you two are engaging in an online spat rather than exercising your constitutional rights - as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment - to shoot each other... wink


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« Reply #1497 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:55pm »

on Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:37pm, boredatwork wrote:
Well at least itís heartening that you two are engaging in an online spat rather than exercising your constitutional rights - as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment - to shoot each other... wink


Oh no bored, am I gonna have to school you too on the 2nd Amendment? wink grin

What we are engaging in is actually the 1st Amendment but not sure how well that's gonna fly here either to be honest. smiley Seems we all have some freedom of speech here just not all encompassing per the forum rules.
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« Reply #1498 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 5:57pm »

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Nah, it's a sarcastic joke. Hence the winky smiley. No offense meant I'm sure and none taken.
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« Reply #1499 on: Dec 24th, 2015, 11:04am »

I think it's time to move on from this topic.
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