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« Reply #4035 on: Feb 18th, 2016, 5:48pm »

on Feb 18th, 2016, 5:28pm, Lily wrote:
I agree. Except about the thin part, she looks very healthy, she's probably just naturally thin like that. I used to be, people always told me to go eat a sandwich.


I don't know Lily. She seems awful thin to me, especially in her arms. To me her upper arms look pretty much like her forearms. She was always on the thin side but now she looks to be much thinner than she was a couple of years ago. Even a year ago for that matter.

I'd hate to see her get even skinnier and that's all I really meant by eating some more.

Did you watch that video? Curious about what you think if you did.
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« Reply #4036 on: Feb 18th, 2016, 8:56pm »

on Feb 18th, 2016, 5:48pm, ericm wrote:
I don't know Lily. She seems awful thin to me, especially in her arms. To me her upper arms look pretty much like her forearms. She was always on the thin side but now she looks to be much thinner than she was a couple of years ago. Even a year ago for that matter.

I'd hate to see her get even skinnier and that's all I really meant by eating some more.

Did you watch that video? Curious about what you think if you did.


I did and I saw another one like that with one of her other songs, very very good. cool
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« Reply #4037 on: Feb 19th, 2016, 07:24am »

on Feb 18th, 2016, 08:35am, ericm wrote:
She's definitely talented and seems to have her act together. A much better role model for teenage girls and young women than most of the others out there now but I always think she could stand to eat a cheeseburger or two, maybe with a milkshake, and some pie for desert.

Aside from possibly needing to gain a few pounds IMO, I think she's pretty great and a very talented young woman.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=RDOGDkg3QiJmk¶ms=OALAAQE%253D&v=OGDkg3QiJmk


I agree, as I said elsewhere, some of 1989 is pretty good, but she still looks like she's made of plastic, which I guess is a make-up issue? Also, she's got the "Shania Twain" "Can't decide which genre I want to be" thing! wink
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« Reply #4038 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 10:37am »

Donald Trump is asking his supporters to boycott all Apple products until the company cooperates with the US government regarding the release of certain security information. He tweeted this from his iPhone. Shithead.
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« Reply #4039 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 1:59pm »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 10:37am, Dust wrote:
Donald Trump is asking his supporters to boycott all Apple products until the company cooperates with the US government regarding the release of certain security information. He tweeted this from his iPhone. Shithead.


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« Reply #4040 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 8:56pm »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 10:37am, Dust wrote:
Donald Trump is asking his supporters to boycott all Apple products until the company cooperates with the US government regarding the release of certain security information. He tweeted this from his iPhone. Shithead.


I'm not up with this but are people upset that the FBI want to access this particular terrorist's iPhone or ALL iPhones in general? Are they thinking this will set a precedent?
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« Reply #4041 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 10:44pm »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 8:56pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
I'm not up with this but are people upset that the FBI want to access this particular terrorist's iPhone or ALL iPhones in general? Are they thinking this will set a precedent?


All the things I've heard are about the worry the precedent it will set. I think most people want the FBI to have the info on the phone but maybe not at the expense of big brother being able to monitor all phones once they have the ability to access one.

I'm of the belief I have nothing to hide so it wouldn't bother me personally but I'm also not a fan of the govt being able to get around some civil liberties whenever and however they want.
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« Reply #4042 on: Feb 20th, 2016, 11:43pm »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 10:44pm, ericm wrote:
All the things I've heard are about the worry the precedent it will set. I think most people want the FBI to have the info on the phone but maybe not at the expense of big brother being able to monitor all phones once they have the ability to access one.

I'm of the belief I have nothing to hide so it wouldn't bother me personally but I'm also not a fan of the govt being able to get around some civil liberties whenever and however they want.


Well I agree but wouldn't there be strict guidelines on being granted access? I'm thinking wiretap laws would have some similar guidelines requiring a court order or warrant?
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« Reply #4043 on: Feb 21st, 2016, 4:45pm »

on Feb 20th, 2016, 10:44pm, ericm wrote:
All the things I've heard are about the worry the precedent it will set. I think most people want the FBI to have the info on the phone but maybe not at the expense of big brother being able to monitor all phones once they have the ability to access one.

I'm of the belief I have nothing to hide so it wouldn't bother me personally but I'm also not a fan of the govt being able to get around some civil liberties whenever and however they want.

The FBI already has access to the info on this iPhone:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbnTJv3WAAAhnBc.png:large

The point is that no backdoor currently exists for this or any recent iPhone. Your government want to force Apple to create one. And once one is created smart hackers will find & use it & we’re all less safe. When your bank details are dumped online (as happened with large amounts of data in the Ashley Madison hack) you might decide you have something to hide after all.

Once Apple have yielded to this government warrant & built a backdoor then how can they refuse other warrants to use it to hack into other phones? Not just from the US authorities – how about when the Chinese government present an order for them to hack into the phone of a “terrorist” – a.k.a. a dissident?

The precedent this sets should worry everyone. angry
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« Reply #4044 on: Feb 21st, 2016, 8:08pm »

I don't think the info in that link is correct or why would they be fighting Apple to help them get through the encryption and gain access to what's on the phone?

Here's a piece from an LA Times article about what they want and don't have:

Investigators are hoping the data on the iPhone will help answer several questions that have persisted since the shooting. It remains unclear why Farook left a bag with several pipe bombs in the conference room where he and his wife opened fire, why the bombs were not detonated, or if the couple were plotting other attacks.

Additional evidence also could prove valuable in the case against Enrique Marquez Jr., a friend of Farook’s, who has pleaded not guilty to buying two rifles used in the shootings and providing material support for terrorists and other crimes.

Location data on the phone, among other pieces of information, could also help investigators answer questions about the couple’s movements during an 18-minute gap in the FBI’s timeline of their actions following the shooting.

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« Reply #4045 on: Feb 21st, 2016, 8:16pm »

It's a good advertisement for Apple if even the techs at the FBI can't break into them..
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« Reply #4046 on: Feb 21st, 2016, 8:23pm »

on Feb 21st, 2016, 8:16pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
It's a good advertisement for Apple if even the techs at the FBI can't break into them..
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No doubt about that!

I'd bet they could get into it given enough tries. Problem is they only get ten tries at the password or it completely wipes itself clean.
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« Reply #4047 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 07:22am »

on Feb 21st, 2016, 8:08pm, ericm wrote:
I don't think the info in that link is correct or why would they be fighting Apple to help them get through the encryption and gain access to what's on the phone?

So that the capability is there for the authorities to do it again to get into other phones in future. This is a test case with the FBI using the San Bernardino case to try & get public support.
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« Reply #4048 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 07:24am »

on Feb 21st, 2016, 8:23pm, ericm wrote:
No doubt about that!

I'd bet they could get into it given enough tries. Problem is they only get ten tries at the password or it completely wipes itself clean.

Which is why the FBI is trying to force Apple to engineer an operating system that won’t wipe the data after 10 tries & will automatically subject the phone to repeated attempts until the right passcode is finally input. And once it exists & it used on this phone, it can & will be used again on other phones.
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« Reply #4049 on: Feb 22nd, 2016, 08:50am »

on Feb 22nd, 2016, 07:22am, boredatwork wrote:
So that the capability is there for the authorities to do it again to get into other phones in future. This is a test case with the FBI using the San Bernardino case to try & get public support.


I agree it would set a bad precedent, no question about that. I don't agree however that they've gotten into this particular phone or have gotten all they need as that link above seems to indicate.

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