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« Reply #3990 on: Jan 7th, 2016, 1:58pm »

on Jan 7th, 2016, 10:33am, slowdancer wrote:
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« Reply #3991 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 04:38am »

My response to two big news items right now:

The U.K. government is debating over whether or not to ban U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump from entering the United Kingdom after he suggested deporting Muslims from the United States. Now, I understand that Trump is very outspoken and his views on things are considered insensitive and backwards, but Trump has the right to freedom of speech and that's that. Banning him would be utterly embarrassing, cowardly and hypocritical in my opinion. Let's hope this ridiculous "ban" never happens. undecided

A small group of film cast and crew members are boycotting this year's Oscars (and are encouraging others to join them) because too many of the nominees are white, thus the nominees aren't diverse enough and therefore the Oscars are racist. This is absolutely nonsensical, to the point of being insulting. At first, I thought it was a satirical rumour, a joke centering on the frequent squabbling over contemporary racial identity and relations. I wish it was, but apparently, this is real. There's even a hashtag for it called #OscarsSoWhite. rolleyes
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« Reply #3992 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 10:33am »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 04:38am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
My response to two big news items right now:

The U.K. government is debating over whether or not to ban U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump from entering the United Kingdom after he suggested deporting Muslims from the United States. Now, I understand that Trump is very outspoken and his views on things are considered insensitive and backwards, but Trump has the right to freedom of speech and that's that. Banning him would be utterly embarrassing, cowardly and hypocritical in my opinion. Let's hope this ridiculous "ban" never happens. undecided

A small group of film cast and crew members are boycotting this year's Oscars (and are encouraging others to join them) because too many of the nominees are white, thus the nominees aren't diverse enough and therefore the Oscars are racist. This is absolutely nonsensical, to the point of being insulting. At first, I thought it was a satirical rumour, a joke centering on the frequent squabbling over contemporary racial identity and relations. I wish it was, but apparently, this is real. There's even a hashtag for it called #OscarsSoWhite. rolleyes


The ban on Donald Trump is not going to happen - he's a popular presidential candidate in a country with which we have strong ties. Besides, it's been argued that banning him from entering the country would only give him new material, and enable him to present himself in a martyr-like way.

The parliamentary debate (which ended with a strong consensus not to enforce any ban) had to happen because of the number of signatures on the petition. And I disagree with your argument about his right to free speech - of course he has a right to free speech, but he does not have a right to incite racial hatred (or at least he wouldn't in the UK), which is what the 500,000 signatures on the petition argue he is doing, particularly with his islamophobic comments.

As for the #OscarsSoWhite... well it does seem pretty terrible that for 2 years in a row, the 20 nominees for actors' awards have all been white. Surely that can't be representative of the talent pool. Plus, apparently the voting demographic for these awards is 94% white and 77% male. That's not good.
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« Reply #3993 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 1:08pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 04:38am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
A small group of film cast and crew members are boycotting this year's Oscars (and are encouraging others to join them) because too many of the nominees are white

I agree with Merryman. It's not that "too many are white"... it's that they're ALL WHITE, ALL 40 nominated actors over the past two years!! That's extreme. The protest is to raise awareness over the unequal opportunities provided to people of color in an industry that is predominantly controlled by old white men.

And please (you know who you are wink ) don't come back with your "political correctness run amok" rants. You may agree or disagree... those protesting are more that entitled to their viewpoints.
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« Reply #3994 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 2:12pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 10:33am, Merryman72 wrote:
The ban on Donald Trump is not going to happen - he's a popular presidential candidate in a country with which we have strong ties. Besides, it's been argued that banning him from entering the country would only give him new material, and enable him to present himself in a martyr-like way.

That makes him sound like a comedian, which is quite apt! laugh

Letís stop giving the wretched man so much publicity whenever he spouts more twaddle. Leave him to the oblivion he merits. Itís irritating when something he says is the main item on the UK news rolleyes
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« Reply #3995 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 2:25pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 2:12pm, boredatwork wrote:
Letís stop giving the wretched man so much publicity whenever he spouts more twaddle. Leave him to the oblivion he merits. Itís irritating when something he says is the main item on the UK news rolleyes

Irritating. The man could become President of the United States, I shit you not.


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« Reply #3996 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 2:28pm »

I think it would be a mistake not to take Trump seriously, what with all the support he has... He's not speaking to oblivion in the US, however much he may merit it.
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« Reply #3997 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 3:00pm »

After thinking about it, I now agree with you guys. The thing is, I'm not sure if the people picking the nominees deliberately avoided selecting non-whites, or if it just turned out that the ones they considered the best all turned out to be white. Maybe it's a bit of both.

As for Trump... yeah, I agree he comes across as clueless, brash and deeply arrogant. I wasn't defending his views. I don't think he will become President though. Mrs. Clinton seems to be the top choice for most Americans (though Bernie Sanders fans are very vocal online!)
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« Reply #3998 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 3:13pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 2:25pm, Dust wrote:
Irritating. The man could become President of the United States, I shit you not.

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on Jan 19th, 2016, 2:28pm, Merryman72 wrote:
I think it would be a mistake not to take Trump seriously, what with all the support he has... He's not speaking to oblivion in the US, however much he may merit it.

He has many devoted supporters, but surely not enough to make him president? From what Iíve read, even if Trump did win the Republican nomination most US floating voters & even a lot of Republicans wouldnít vote for him, & Republicans know this so their self-preservation instincts will induce them to nominate a less incendiary candidate.
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« Reply #3999 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 3:25pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 3:13pm, boredatwork wrote:
He has many devoted supporters, but surely not enough to make him president? From what Iíve read, even if Trump did win the Republican nomination most US floating voters & even a lot of Republicans wouldnít vote for him, & Republicans know this so their self-preservation instincts will induce them to nominate a less incendiary candidate.


55% of Republicans polled said they wouldn't vote for Trump.
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« Reply #4000 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 3:30pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 3:13pm, boredatwork wrote:
He has many devoted supporters, but surely not enough to make him president? From what Iíve read, even if Trump did win the Republican nomination most US floating voters & even a lot of Republicans wouldnít vote for him, & Republicans know this so their self-preservation instincts will induce them to nominate a less incendiary candidate.

Sorry, tons of folks here disagree. The Electoral College process can easily give him the Republican nomination. Then it would likely be a two-way general election with Hillary Clinton... and don't underestimate the number of Americans who would sooner vote for Vladimir Putin than Hill. undecided
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« Reply #4001 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 3:31pm »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 3:25pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
55% of Republicans polled said they wouldn't vote for Trump.

Last July that number was closer to 80%.
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« Reply #4002 on: Jan 20th, 2016, 06:53am »

on Jan 19th, 2016, 3:30pm, Dust wrote:
Sorry, tons of folks here disagree. The Electoral College process can easily give him the Republican nomination. Then it would likely be a two-way general election with Hillary Clinton... and don't underestimate the number of Americans who would sooner vote for Vladimir Putin than Hill. undecided

Well if his recent endorsement by Sarah Palin endears him to anyone other than their existing supporters, thereís probably no hope for your country.... tongue
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« Reply #4003 on: Jan 20th, 2016, 10:29am »

on Jan 20th, 2016, 06:53am, boredatwork wrote:
Well if his recent endorsement by Sarah Palin endears him to anyone other than their existing supporters, thereís probably no hope for your country.... tongue

Bloody hell, Sarah Palin... shocked
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« Reply #4004 on: Jan 20th, 2016, 10:50am »

on Jan 20th, 2016, 06:53am, boredatwork wrote:
Well if his recent endorsement by Sarah Palin endears him to anyone other than their existing supporters, thereís probably no hope for your country.... tongue


Watching Trump on T.V. last night, beaming with pride while Palin spewed her ignorant remarks as though she were his running mate, has turned me off Trump completely. Looking at Bernie Sanders a bit more now.
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