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« Reply #3855 on: Aug 12th, 2015, 4:38pm »

on Aug 12th, 2015, 2:43pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
You really shouldn't. Even as a person who lives in England, I never call my country England, I always call it the UK.


That is your right NoSon, but I consider my Country to be England.
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« Reply #3856 on: Aug 12th, 2015, 6:08pm »

on Aug 12th, 2015, 4:38pm, unclealbert wrote:
That is your right NoSon, but I consider my country to be England.

Fine by me. smiley Just as long as you understand deep down that the United Kingdom is a country, not some frivolous, pretend union. In fact, this is something that all British people need to accept and live with. There are some people in the UK who are so proud to be from their constituent country that they take massive and totally unnecessary offence to being addressed as a British or UK citizen. When beloved Scottish singer Annie Lennox (Eurythmics) posted on Facebook that she accepts the United Kingdom flag as her flag, she received a really hateful and immature response from some Scottish nationalists. This is what we need to move from. I know it's just a loud minority acting this way, but in my honest opinion, attacking a person for acknowledging their national flag is absolutely ridiculous. undecided

This is an indisputable fact: Everyone who lives in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a British citizen. The word "British" does not mean "English" or "non-Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish" it simply means "a citizen of the United Kingdom". The four UK countries are stuck together like superglue whether we like it or not, and the outcome of the Scottish independence referendum proved once again that nothing is going to tear us apart. If you travel across the Scotland-England or Wales-England borders, or travel to Northern Ireland from anywhere else in the UK, you are not leaving the country, just like a person travelling from Alaska to Hawaii isn't leaving the United States of America. If every British citizen accepts this once and for all and moves on the years of squabbling, I'm certain that the United Kingdom will continue to improve as a nation, and I know that President Obama, who is very fond of the UK and congratulated Scotland for voting against independence, strongly agrees. cool
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« Reply #3857 on: Aug 12th, 2015, 7:00pm »

on Aug 12th, 2015, 6:08pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Fine by me. smiley Just as long as you understand deep down that the United Kingdom is a country, not some frivolous, pretend union. In fact, this is something that all British people need to accept and live with. There are some people in the UK who are so proud to be from their constituent country that they take massive and totally unnecessary offence to being addressed as a British or UK citizen. When beloved Scottish singer Annie Lennox (Eurythmics) posted on Facebook that she accepts the United Kingdom flag as her flag, she received a really hateful and immature response from some Scottish nationalists. This is what we need to move from. I know it's just a loud minority acting this way, but in my honest opinion, attacking a person for acknowledging their national flag is absolutely ridiculous. undecided

This is an indisputable fact: Everyone who lives in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a British citizen. The word "British" does not mean "English" or "non-Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish" it simply means "a citizen of the United Kingdom". The four UK countries are stuck together like superglue whether we like it or not, and the outcome of the Scottish independence referendum proved once again that nothing is going to tear us apart. If you travel across the Scotland-England or Wales-England borders, or travel to Northern Ireland from anywhere else in the UK, you are not leaving the country, just like a person travelling from Alaska to Hawaii isn't leaving the United States of America. If every British citizen accepts this once and for all and moves on the years of squabbling, I'm certain that the United Kingdom will continue to improve as a nation, and I know that President Obama, who is very fond of the UK and congratulated Scotland for voting against independence, strongly agrees. cool


Understood and I guess at nearly 60 years old I should understand how it works by now wink

However, the SNP will be pushing hard for another referendum on whether Scotland should be part of the UK. Given the massive swing to SNP at the General Election, I suspect the next referendum vote will be very different whether President Obama likes it or not.

Would suit me fine, then it can be argued that the English should have its own Parliament (without SNP members being allowed to vote on English matters) and be devolved from the UK also.

Devolution won't go away and the more Scotland and Wales are devolved, the greater the cry will be from England for equal treatment.
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« Reply #3858 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 02:30am »

...waiting for Alan to chime in here any minute..

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« Reply #3859 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 04:40am »

on Aug 12th, 2015, 7:00pm, unclealbert wrote:
However, the SNP will be pushing hard for another referendum on whether Scotland should be part of the UK. Given the massive swing to SNP at the General Election, I suspect the next referendum vote will be very different whether President Obama likes it or not.

Well I sincerely hope not. I see no point in the country going through the whole thing again. If it does happen again I'm sure it won't be for quite a while, though.
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« Reply #3860 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 04:55am »

on Aug 13th, 2015, 04:40am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Well I sincerely hope not. I see no point in the country going through the whole thing again. If it does happen again I'm sure it won't be for quite a while, though.


I'm sure you're right.

It would be interesting if the English, Welsh and Northern Irish had been allowed to vote on Scottish independence (after all it affects the "UK" so why shouldn't all "UK" residents be allowed to vote?).

If that had been the case, I think the outcome of the last vote would have been Scottish independence. Seriously.

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« Reply #3861 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 05:32am »

on Aug 12th, 2015, 6:08pm, NoSonOfVine wrote:
... I'm certain that the United Kingdom will continue to improve as a nation, and I know that President Obama, who is very fond of the UK and congratulated Scotland for voting against independence, strongly agrees. cool

on Aug 12th, 2015, 7:00pm, unclealbert wrote:
... I suspect the next referendum vote will be very different whether President Obama likes it or not.

huh

Curious.... What does Obama have to do with any of this?
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« Reply #3862 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 05:46am »

on Aug 13th, 2015, 05:32am, Dust wrote:
Curious.... What does Obama have to do with any of this?

Obama encouraged Scotland to vote no to independence, and was pleased when that was the result.
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« Reply #3863 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 05:54am »

My daughter May passed all three of her A levels today smiley

Proud Dad when one considers she wasn't diagnosed with Dyslexia until last Xmas

Just a shame that Cheshire Police messed her around so much she has missed out on a University place for Adult nursing..... angry

Anyways she will get a place next year

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« Reply #3864 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 06:44am »

on Aug 13th, 2015, 05:54am, John Wilkinson wrote:
My daughter May passed all three of her A levels today smiley

Proud Dad when one considers she wasn't diagnosed with Dyslexia until last Xmas

Excellent news! smiley

In fact, if the news articles on Facebook are to be believed, 98% of UK students passed their A-levels this year, a record high! cool
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« Reply #3865 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 08:01am »

on Aug 13th, 2015, 05:32am, Dust wrote:
huh

Curious.... What does Obama have to do with any of this?

+1

on Aug 13th, 2015, 05:46am, NoSonOfVine wrote:
Obama encouraged Scotland to vote no to independence, and was pleased when that was the result.

What business is it of his?
There’s no reason for the British/Scots/whoever to vote for anything because Obama says so. We don’t get a chance to vote for the US president, who’s got far too used to Britain doing exactly what he tells them to do, especially since Tony Blair.

Vote for what you think is best NoSon, not for what Obama or Cameron or anyone else tells you to.
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« Reply #3866 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 08:57am »

on Aug 13th, 2015, 05:32am, Dust wrote:
huh

Curious.... What does Obama have to do with any of this?


My thoughts exactly......
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« Reply #3867 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 08:58am »

on Aug 13th, 2015, 08:01am, boredatwork wrote:
What business is it of his?
There’s no reason for the British/Scots/whoever to vote for anything because Obama says so. We don’t get a chance to vote for the US president, who’s got far too used to Britain doing exactly what he tells them to do, especially since Tony Blair.

Vote for what you think is best NoSon, not for what Obama or Cameron or anyone else tells you to.


This.
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« Reply #3868 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 09:58am »

Yea, I wonder what benefit Obama has of this. Maybe a new country on the map with people who have their own mind doesn't sit well with transatlantic policies because it might encourage other territories to separate too? Though in this case I can't see how it would have changed anything for the US government at all.
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« Reply #3869 on: Aug 13th, 2015, 10:12am »

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to imply that I think Obama's always right or anything... undecided
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