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« Reply #810 on: Jan 12th, 2016, 11:06pm »

on Jan 12th, 2016, 9:47pm, Lily wrote:
Oh and Henry, the theme song won a Golden Globe grin

So did Stevie Wonder's "I Just Called To Say I Love You".

I rest my case.
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« Reply #811 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 12:17am »

on Jan 12th, 2016, 4:29pm, HENRY wrote:
Finally got around to seeing Spectre last night.

As a big fan of the Bond movies I avoided anything that would give me any sort of preconception or advanced info about the movie. But I did get a sense from various sources that the film was somewhat of a disappointment.

Well, now that I've seen it, I'm glad that I distanced myself from the mass media scrutiny. I think it's a great film. I liked the dark tone, the way the storyline revealed itself over the course of the movie, the throwbacks to earlier Bond films, and just the overall sense of involvement I got out of watching it. Sure, like any Bond film I could nitpick a handful of silly issues, but I don't think it ever got to the point of ridiculousness.

And I would say that Daniel Craig's tenure as Bond is probably the most interesting and successful of the bunch that played the role. His acting is first rate, although he does not have the classic look of Bond which I always felt took away a bit from his films, but still he does a great job. It's too bad that at this point his return for another Bond film is up in the air, or possibly unlikely. The conclusion of Spectre left things somewhat open-ended, so it will be interesting to see what comes next.

Anyway, as I said, excellent film. Can't wait for the blu-ray release so I can watch it again.



Oh, but the theme song sucked.


I really enjoyed it too. I think the cinematography on this one was notably better than any other Bond movie. Especially the opening scene where the camera follows Bond out the window on the ledge etc. incredible stuff
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« Reply #812 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 04:08am »

on Jan 12th, 2016, 9:47pm, Lily wrote:
Oh and Henry, the theme song won a Golden Globe grin

on Jan 12th, 2016, 11:06pm, HENRY wrote:
So did Stevie Wonder's "I Just Called To Say I Love You".

I rest my case.

Thatís a bit unfair to Stevie Wonder, a great artist who gave us many classic tracks, although admittedly "I Just Called To Say I Love You" wasnít one of them cheesy It was still far better than anything ever sung by Sam Smith with his unlistenable whiny voice. While I donít like Adele who sang the last Bond theme, I can understand that many people do, whereas Sam Smithís popularity is a complete mystery huh

Anyway, surely any connection between the Golden Globes awards & musical merit has been an entirely random occurrence for years?


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« Reply #813 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 07:59am »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 04:08am, boredatwork wrote:


Anyway, surely any connection between the Golden Globes awards & musical merit has been an entirely random occurrence for years?




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« Reply #814 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 12:20pm »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 12:17am, Yild4Genesis wrote:
I really enjoyed it too. I think the cinematography on this one was notably better than any other Bond movie. Especially the opening scene where the camera follows Bond out the window on the ledge etc. incredible stuff


Apparently, the entire opening sequence up to the explosion was filmed in one entire take, in real time, albeit with multiple cameras, which makes it all the more remarkable.

(What IS FAKE time, BTW? grin)
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« Reply #815 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 12:24pm »

on Jan 12th, 2016, 4:29pm, HENRY wrote:
Finally got around to seeing Spectre last night.

As a big fan of the Bond movies I avoided anything that would give me any sort of preconception or advanced info about the movie. But I did get a sense from various sources that the film was somewhat of a disappointment.

Well, now that I've seen it, I'm glad that I distanced myself from the mass media scrutiny. I think it's a great film. I liked the dark tone, the way the storyline revealed itself over the course of the movie, the throwbacks to earlier Bond films, and just the overall sense of involvement I got out of watching it. Sure, like any Bond film I could nitpick a handful of silly issues, but I don't think it ever got to the point of ridiculousness.

And I would say that Daniel Craig's tenure as Bond is probably the most interesting and successful of the bunch that played the role. His acting is first rate, although he does not have the classic look of Bond which I always felt took away a bit from his films, but still he does a great job. It's too bad that at this point his return for another Bond film is up in the air, or possibly unlikely. The conclusion of Spectre left things somewhat open-ended, so it will be interesting to see what comes next.

Anyway, as I said, excellent film. Can't wait for the blu-ray release so I can watch it again.



Oh, but the theme song sucked.


Wholeheartedly agree with all this, esp. the theme song. Adele's was brilliant (One of her best, in fact) this however, must've been written by Kirby Cleaners!

One little point: While I would have said at the time of his initial casting that Craig was too far from the classic Bond look, I think he has so invigorated it, that perhaps it was miscast UNTIL him! wink
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« Reply #816 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 3:38pm »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 04:08am, boredatwork wrote:
Thatís a bit unfair to Stevie Wonder, a great artist who gave us many classic tracks, although admittedly "I Just Called To Say I Love You" wasnít one of them cheesy It was still far better than anything ever sung by Sam Smith with his unlistenable whiny voice. While I donít like Adele who sang the last Bond theme, I can understand that many people do, whereas Sam Smithís popularity is a complete mystery huh

Anyway, surely any connection between the Golden Globes awards & musical merit has been an entirely random occurrence for years?

Over the years individual songs that have been nominated for things such as the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards have generally tended to be bland and forgettable stuff...safe music for mainstream movies. Winners, who are determined by a pool of associated voters, are usually chosen for either their widespread appeal or for being traditionally conventional.

Adele's and Sam Smith's wins weren't that much different in nature; Adele was already an established and popular singer after all. But "Skyfall", IMO, was a great song, perfectly suited for the task, and she is a great singer. On the other hand, I also find Sam Smith's vocal style to be quite annoying, and to me the song came across as generic Bond muzak. Sitting through that title sequence was excruciating. tongue

Stevie Wonder won because he was an established music industry superstar with a customary likable, but mediocre, tune.
That year he beat out a couple of upstarts...
Phil Collins ("Against All Odds") and Prince ("When Doves Cry").
Proof that there is no god...



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« Reply #817 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 3:41pm »

on Jan 12th, 2016, 9:47pm, Lily wrote:
Duly noted Dusty and Henry!

the theme song won a Golden Globe grin




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« Reply #818 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 3:55pm »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 12:24pm, foxfeeder wrote:
One little point: While I would have said at the time of his initial casting that Craig was too far from the classic Bond look, I think he has so invigorated it, that perhaps it was miscast UNTIL him! wink

I do think that Craig is perfectly well suited to play James Bond, and his portrayal brought something new and interesting to the role. As far as I'm concerned, he and Connery both represent the best of the Bonds, although for different reasons. But as a traditionalist, and I know it's merely a superficial concern, I do prefer that character to be presented as Ian Fleming had cast him originally. Both Connery and Dalton came closest to fitting that ideal, IMO.
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« Reply #819 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 4:20pm »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 3:38pm, HENRY wrote:
Stevie Wonder won because he was an established music industry superstar with a customary likable, but mediocre, tune.
That year he beat out a couple of upstarts...
Phil Collins ("Against All Odds") and Prince ("When Doves Cry").
Proof that there is no god...

And what goes around....

A few years ago I saw Aimee Mann perform live, and just before playing "Save Me," she said, "This is a song I wrote that was nominated for an Academy Award, but I lost to fuckin' Phil Collins and his song about a fuckin' cartoon bear." She sounded a little bitter, but in a humorous way.

In fact, the winning song was Tarzan's "You'll Be In My Heart", which has nothing whatsoever to do with bears. Aimee must be well-versed on Phil's other songs about cartoon animals.

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« Reply #820 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 4:32pm »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 3:55pm, HENRY wrote:
I do think that Craig is perfectly well suited to play James Bond, and his portrayal brought something new and interesting to the role. As far as I'm concerned, he and Connery both represent the best of the Bonds, although for different reasons. But as a traditionalist, and I know it's merely a superficial concern, I do prefer that character to be presented as Ian Fleming had cast him originally. Both Connery and Dalton came closest to fitting that ideal, IMO.


Agree 100%. Craig's version brings a roughness almost a " brutality" to the character not seen before. That transfers well to today's generation and inspires and invigorates the fight scenes in his movies. It provides a type of believability to these scenes but he still retains the typical Bond "tongue in cheek" remarks that have made the character. To me he IS James Bond..
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on Jan 13th, 2016, 4:32pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
Agree 100%. Craig's version brings a roughness almost a " brutality" to the character not seen before. That transfers well to today's generation and inspires and invigorates the fight scenes in his movies. It provides a type of believability to these scenes but he still retains the typical Bond "tongue in cheek" remarks that have made the character. To me he IS James Bond..

Yes, Craig is tailor-made as the modern James Bond. He'll be difficult to replace.
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« Reply #822 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 4:52pm »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 4:20pm, Dust wrote:
And what goes around....

A few years ago I saw Aimee Mann perform live, and just before playing "Save Me," she said, "This is a song I wrote that was nominated for an Academy Award, but I lost to fuckin' Phil Collins and his song about a fuckin' cartoon bear." She sounded a little bitter, but in a humorous way.

In fact, the winning song was Tarzan's "You'll Be In My Heart", which has nothing whatsoever to do with bears. Aimee must be well-versed on Phil's other songs about cartoon animals.

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Oh, absolutely. Once Phil became the superstar he got the nod. The song itself was irrelevant.
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« Reply #823 on: Jan 15th, 2016, 03:50am »

on Jan 13th, 2016, 3:55pm, HENRY wrote:
I do think that Craig is perfectly well suited to play James Bond, and his portrayal brought something new and interesting to the role. As far as I'm concerned, he and Connery both represent the best of the Bonds, although for different reasons. But as a traditionalist, and I know it's merely a superficial concern, I do prefer that character to be presented as Ian Fleming had cast him originally. Both Connery and Dalton came closest to fitting that ideal, IMO.


Agree with this.

IMO, Connery and Brosnan.
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