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« Reply #3915 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 10:53am »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 09:12am, ericm wrote:
Wow! I'm speechless, and really don't know how to respond to this. I just hope you're kidding.


Nope! Hope there's not going to be another argument? I do believe in walking for exercise, but not all this gym stuff. I like eating chocolate but don't make a meal of it. I like to enjoy what I eat, not force myself to eat "healthy".
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« Reply #3916 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 12:02pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 10:53am, Squigelyfox wrote:
Nope! Hope there's not going to be another argument? I do believe in walking for exercise, but not all this gym stuff. I like eating chocolate but don't make a meal of it. I like to enjoy what I eat, not force myself to eat "healthy".


Not sure why you think they'll be an argument unless you're trolling, and trying to start one. Why should I care how you decide to live your life? Lead it as healthy or unhealthy as you choose. You can choose to rationalize eating however you want all you like. If eating unhealthy makes you happy, have at it.

I also don't get why you think eating healthy is somehow not enjoyable? There are tons of healthy foods that taste great, and are good for you at the same time. You do know that unhealthy foods aren't the only tasty foods,right? I mean a nice grilled chicken breast done right can be quite tasty. Maybe not as tasty as fried chicken but to me the difference is negligible, and the health benefits are immeasurable, especially if multiplied over years.

There is so much info out there available to everyone that to not take advantage of proven studies is short sighted at the very least,IMO. No one says you can't have chocolate,desserts, or snacks, whatever the case may be. Just there are healthy options available in all those things, that are just as tasty. If there are two things that are similar in taste, and enjoyment of eating them but one is considerably healthier, why wouldn't someone choose the healthier one?

As far as the exercising/gym goes, yes walking or any physical activity is a good thing. Walking is certainly better than doing nothing,and everyone should at the very least be doing some type of physical activity. Walking included. However in my post to NSOV, he was talking about losing weight, not just being active. Eating right is the first step towards that, and walking is a good start to trying to be active. . However to effectively lose weight, and keep it off, just walking isn't going to cut it. That was where my exercising suggestion came in. This "gym stuff" as you call it might not be your thing but to dismiss it as hooey or some type of made up propaganda that doesn't work as it seems you're doing, is far from accurate.


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« Reply #3917 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 12:28pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 10:53am, Squigelyfox wrote:
I do believe in walking for exercise, but not all this gym stuff. I like to enjoy what I eat, not force myself to eat "healthy".


+1 wink

I'm in the medical field and know that for many people, eating healthy and light exercise has not brought the results they had hoped for. There are many reasons for this, including genetics, stress, slow metabolism, etc.

Squigs is correct with regards to those who go to the gym hoping to forever keep off the weight. It's unrealistic.

Eating in moderation and watching portion size is the best way to lose and maintain the healthiest weight possible for any individual. Light exercise will help with muscle tone and keeping the joints limber.
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« Reply #3918 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 12:49pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 12:28pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
+1 wink

I'm in the medical field and know that for many people, eating healthy and light exercise has not brought the results they had hoped for. There are many reasons for this, including genetics, stress, slow metabolism, etc.

Squigs is correct with regards to those who go to the gym hoping to forever keep off the weight. It's unrealistic.

Eating in moderation and watching portion size is the best way to lose and maintain the healthiest weight possible for any individual. Light exercise will help with muscle tone and keeping the joints limber.


Thank you! smiley

I only said it was overrated didn't I? FWIW I don't eat chicken cooked any way.
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« Reply #3919 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 12:56pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 12:02pm, ericm wrote:
Not sure why you think they'll be an argument unless you're trolling, and trying to start one. Why should I care how you decide to live your life? Lead it as healthy or unhealthy as you choose. You can choose to rationalize eating however you want all you like. If eating unhealthy makes you happy, have at it.




Of course I'm not trolling! When you said "I just hope you're kidding" in your earlier post, it did sound like you cared. I eat what seems right for me anyway, I know my body. I don't smoke or drink alcohol either.
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« Reply #3920 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 1:08pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 12:28pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
+1 wink

I'm in the medical field and know that for many people, eating healthy and light exercise has not brought the results they had hoped for. There are many reasons for this, including genetics, stress, slow metabolism, etc.

Squigs is correct with regards to those who go to the gym hoping to forever keep off the weight. It's unrealistic.

Eating in moderation and watching portion size is the best way to lose and maintain the healthiest weight possible for any individual. Light exercise will help with muscle tone and keeping the joints limber.


With respect I couldn't disagree with a few of your points more.

I can counter your 1st point by just as easily saying "many people do get the results they hope for". Yes, I agree everyone is different, and there are many factors involved in achieving success or not achieving it.

Are you saying not going to a gym or exercising will keep weight off forever? I don't think that you are, but certainly people have a much better chance of losing/keeping weight off if exercising is part of their lives, no? I don't think going to a gym or exercising throughout one's lifetime is unrealistic. Especially when one sees how much better they feel, and want to continue feeling good.

I was a smoker for a long time, knew I should quit but didn't think I could, and frankly didn't want to. Once I did, I saw almost immediately how much better I felt,continue to feel, and would never dream of smoking again. Is it hard to not smoke, even after all these years? Yes, sometimes I still get a craving but it's easier now that I have been smoke free for years, and see the benefits of that. Is it unrealistic for me to think I can be smoke free for the rest of my life? No, I don't think it is. Same with being active and doing some type of exercise/gym routine. I realize it's not for everyone, the same way some people still smoke, but to me there's no question exercising is beneficial to me the same way I know smoking is harmful to me.

Lastly, you're saying how light exercise will help with muscle tone which not only seems to contradict your first point but at the same time acknowledging that exercise will build muscle. Is it not true that building muscle or having more of that is also a factor in helping to speed up a metabolism? In effect burning calories while doing it, and helping to lose/maintain weight?

I do agree with you about portion size, and eating in moderation. Both very important, but only a part of maintaining ones health. Both mentally, and physically.
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« Reply #3921 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 1:10pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 07:54am, foxfeeder wrote:
You don't live longer. It just seems like it! grin



This negativity about being fit makes no sense to me at all.

For me the days of the hot body are long gone, it's not about that. Health and fitness is our biggest gift, to ignore it will spoil any length of life you have for sure. It gives you independence, and freedom to do the things you love.

We have a choice. For me, I can be the 57 year old woman gets horribly overweight (which I could easily as I love sugar and carbs), who stiffly hobbles around, and needs somebody else to lift my suitcase from the baggage rack. Or I can move easily with strength and confidence in my independence, and lift it myself. The work that goes into it is worth every minute.

I can also sucker punch somebody who messes with me. grin
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« Reply #3922 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 1:11pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 12:49pm, Squigelyfox wrote:
I only said it was overrated didn't I? FWIW I don't eat chicken cooked any way.


In your response to me you said you didn't "believe in all this gym stuff". Not the same as overrated to me.

The chicken was just an example. Substitute fish if you like, but the point remains the same.
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« Reply #3923 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 1:14pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 1:10pm, Lily wrote:
This negativity about being fit makes no sense to me at all.

For me the days of the hot body are long gone, it's not about that. Health and fitness is our biggest gift, to ignore it will spoil any length of life you have for sure. It gives you independence, and freedom to do the things you love.

We have a choice. For me, I can be the 57 year old woman gets horribly overweight (which I could easily as I love sugar and carbs), who stiffly hobbles around, and needs somebody else to lift my suitcase from the baggage rack. Or I can move easily with strength and confidence in my independence, and lift it myself. The work that goes into it is worth every minute.

I can also sucker punch somebody who messes with me. grin


I like the cut of your jib Lily, and totally agree with you. grin

( my beach body days are long gone too) wink
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« Reply #3924 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 1:20pm »

My grandson is learning to play the ukuele at school , his face was a picture this afternoon when he came home and found out I brought him one
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« Reply #3925 on: Sep 18th, 2014, 2:31pm »

on Sep 18th, 2014, 1:08pm, ericm wrote:
With respect I couldn't disagree with a few of your points more.

I can counter your 1st point by just as easily saying "many people do get the results they hope for". Yes, I agree everyone is different, and there are many factors involved in achieving success or not achieving it.

Are you saying not going to a gym or exercising will keep weight off forever? I don't think that you are, but certainly people have a much better chance of losing/keeping weight off if exercising is part of their lives, no? I don't think going to a gym or exercising throughout one's lifetime is unrealistic. Especially when one sees how much better they feel, and want to continue feeling good.

I was a smoker for a long time, knew I should quit but didn't think I could, and frankly didn't want to. Once I did, I saw almost immediately how much better I felt,continue to feel, and would never dream of smoking again. Is it hard to not smoke, even after all these years? Yes, sometimes I still get a craving but it's easier now that I have been smoke free for years, and see the benefits of that. Is it unrealistic for me to think I can be smoke free for the rest of my life? No, I don't think it is. Same with being active and doing some type of exercise/gym routine. I realize it's not for everyone, the same way some people still smoke, but to me there's no question exercising is beneficial to me the same way I know smoking is harmful to me.

Lastly, you're saying how light exercise will help with muscle tone which not only seems to contradict your first point but at the same time acknowledging that exercise will build muscle. Is it not true that building muscle or having more of that is also a factor in helping to speed up a metabolism? In effect burning calories while doing it, and helping to lose/maintain weight?

I do agree with you about portion size, and eating in moderation. Both very important, but only a part of maintaining ones health. Both mentally, and physically.


If you're inclined to go to the gym and work out, that's great. It's not for everyone, and not everybody achieves the same results. Everyone's body is different. Yes, for most people exercise helps speed up the body's metabolism, but for some people it doesn't. Health and fitness are important, of course, but for decades now the 'perfect' body has been shoved into the public's face as something we should all be working for, and that's just not realistic.
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on Sep 18th, 2014, 1:20pm, shadow wrote:
My grandson is learning to play the ukuele at school , his face was a picture this afternoon when he came home and found out I brought him one


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on Sep 18th, 2014, 2:31pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
If you're inclined to go to the gym and work out, that's great. It's not for everyone, and not everybody achieves the same results. Everyone's body is different. Yes, for most people exercise helps speed up the body's metabolism, but for some people it doesn't. Health and fitness are important, of course, but for decades now the 'perfect' body has been shoved into the public's face as something we should all be working for, and that's just not realistic.


I totally agree about the "perfect" body comment. I've never once said that was my goal (it isn't). There was nothing in my comments about what I want to or expect others to want to look like. My points were only geared towards getting, and staying healthy, as well as losing weight. I certainly don't expect everyone to want to do those things, but my original comment was to NSOV who is trying to lose weight.

I'm definitely not a gym rat who spends a helluva lot of time there. I try for 2-3 times a week for about 45-60 mins each visit. All the other exercise I do is at home in my free time. Probably about the same amount of time each week as I spend in the gym. Most weeks about 5 hrs total between the two. The equivalent to watching two movies a week, and to me a small amount of time in the grand scheme of things to feel, and stay healthy.

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on Sep 18th, 2014, 2:31pm, CountingOutTime wrote:
If you're inclined to go to the gym and work out, that's great. It's not for everyone, and not everybody achieves the same results.


Oh I don't know about that. I think everybody who works hard would have improved heart and lung function, increased strength and longer endurance levels. And the detox benefits from sweating are great.


They key words are 'work hard'. Some don't even break a sweat, hence the difference in results.

As for results regarding 'looks', that all depends what you are starting with, what goals you have and if they are realistic. And if the person is willing to do the hard work and committment that it takes.

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