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« Reply #12 on: May 29th, 2017, 6:51pm »

on May 29th, 2017, 09:42am, foxfeeder wrote:
Very, VERY long prison sentences for inciting or performing acts of racial or religious hatred, which incidentally, work both ways!

The perpetrator of this bombing had been heard shouting controversial statements, etc, before this bombing took place. Next time, let's not wait.....


But where do you draw the line?
Free speech is a cornerstone of our society and needs to be protected at all costs or what's the point of democracy?

You go down that road and next thing you have demonstrators being locked up for voicing their opinion about Trump etc
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« Reply #13 on: May 30th, 2017, 07:12am »

on May 29th, 2017, 6:51pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
But where do you draw the line?
Free speech is a cornerstone of our society and needs to be protected at all costs or what's the point of democracy?

You go down that road and next thing you have demonstrators being locked up for voicing their opinion about Trump etc


We can draw the line just this side of allowing people to incite or promote acts of hate and violence, which surely ARE undemocratic.

If it's a choice between total freedom of speech, or the death of innocent people and children, it's no choice. Surely?
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« Reply #14 on: May 30th, 2017, 3:53pm »

on May 30th, 2017, 07:12am, foxfeeder wrote:
We can draw the line just this side of allowing people to incite or promote acts of hate and violence, which surely ARE undemocratic.

If it's a choice between total freedom of speech, or the death of innocent people and children, it's no choice. Surely?


All I'm saying is it's a slippery slope. You start down that track history has shown where it ends..
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« Reply #15 on: May 31st, 2017, 11:49am »

on May 30th, 2017, 3:53pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
All I'm saying is it's a slippery slope. You start down that track history has shown where it ends..


......in our forum! Where you don't have freedom of speech. We have to have rules to stop trolling, personal flames etc. The real world is no different, except the trolls are killing people. Freedom of speech, press etc, would be lovely, but in reality, it assumes responsible, fair treatment by everyone, and we all know that is never going to happen.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31st, 2017, 3:17pm »

on May 31st, 2017, 11:49am, foxfeeder wrote:
......in our forum! Where you don't have freedom of speech. We have to have rules to stop trolling, personal flames etc. The real world is no different, except the trolls are killing people. Freedom of speech, press etc, would be lovely, but in reality, it assumes responsible, fair treatment by everyone, and we all know that is never going to happen.


So you're saying no to freedom of speech then?
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 1st, 2017, 07:19am »

on May 31st, 2017, 3:17pm, Yild4Genesis wrote:
So you're saying no to freedom of speech then?


Just paraphrasing the rules. Though, in effect, it is just me applying them at the moment. Click on any moderators name on the home page, and check when they last posted. I'll save you some time: Choccy checks in when she can (she has issues) and Krissy usually does the theme around month start. And other than that, it's all me. John Wilkinson, who became a mod same time as me: can't remember his last visit, I guess we ceased to be useful to his Mama trib marketing. Piers: Posted some trib stuff recently. Paloma: who knows?

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« Reply #18 on: Jun 1st, 2017, 11:12am »

on Jun 1st, 2017, 07:19am, foxfeeder wrote:
Just paraphrasing the rules. Though, in effect, it is just me applying them at the moment. Click on any moderators name on the home page, and check when they last posted. I'll save you some time: Choccy checks in when she can (she has issues) and Krissy usually does the theme around month start. And other than that, it's all me. John Wilkinson, who became a mod same time as me: can't remember his last visit, I guess we ceased to be useful to his Mama trib marketing. Piers: Posted some trib stuff recently. Paloma: who knows?

Feeling just a little pxxxxd off, but due to the rules, I'm not really supposed to say pxxxxd! wink


What you are doing here is appreciated. But it is true. Quite some folks have gone.
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 1st, 2017, 4:11pm »

on Jun 1st, 2017, 07:19am, foxfeeder wrote:
Just paraphrasing the rules. Though, in effect, it is just me applying them at the moment. Click on any moderators name on the home page, and check when they last posted. I'll save you some time: Choccy checks in when she can (she has issues) and Krissy usually does the theme around month start. And other than that, it's all me. John Wilkinson, who became a mod same time as me: can't remember his last visit, I guess we ceased to be useful to his Mama trib marketing. Piers: Posted some trib stuff recently. Paloma: who knows?

Feeling just a little pxxxxd off, but due to the rules, I'm not really supposed to say pxxxxd! wink


Speaks volumes about this forum really...
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